Godanubis
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Anubis is known as the god of death and is the oldest and most popular of ancient Egyptian deities.
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Post by Godanubis on Jan 21, 2019 3:45:09 GMT
I don’t know about people but it could have a huge impact on animal migration and distribution. Article on wall affect
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p2pete
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Post by p2pete on Jan 21, 2019 10:37:35 GMT
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Post by faraday815 on Feb 2, 2019 7:44:35 GMT
It's essentially costly as well as overtly and overly nationalistic. The symbolism of erecting a wall is naturally negative, given the walls that have been demolished with fanfare in different parts of the world over the years.
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aju
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Post by aju on Feb 2, 2019 16:35:50 GMT
Just seen the film, VICE at our local cinema, if its even half true then Trump may not be the issue but the people near to him maybe. If there a Dick Cheney lookalike somewhere nearby then i'd not be surprised if they are Trump's puppeteer.
That said over here we are not short of manipulators like cheney, after all what is a "Hard working family" anyway.
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Post by captainconfident on Feb 2, 2019 17:26:52 GMT
Just seen the film, VICE at our local cinema, if its even half true then Trump may not be the issue but the people near to him maybe. If there a Dick Cheney lookalike somewhere nearby then i'd not be surprised if they are Trump's puppeteer. That said over here we are not short of manipulators like cheney, after all what is a "Hard working family" anyway. It seems to me that power is over centralised in the hands of the president in the US. Just taking George W Bush's whim to invade Iraq in causing the deaths of half a million, a million, who know. I hope the God he served gives him the hiding he deserves. Now we are all at threat from an ignorant prejudiced man for whom the lauded 'checks and balances' have been distorted and perverted away - witness the flagrant abuse of process regarding Judge Neil Gorsuch. The USA is a present clear danger to all of us. Witness the Christian websites lighting up with excitement at the scrapping of the nuclear treaties because, and they might be right, it is a sign that we have reached The End Times.
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Post by aju on Feb 2, 2019 19:27:21 GMT
Just seen the film, VICE at our local cinema, if its even half true then Trump may not be the issue but the people near to him maybe. If there a Dick Cheney lookalike somewhere nearby then i'd not be surprised if they are Trump's puppeteer. That said over here we are not short of manipulators like cheney, after all what is a "Hard working family" anyway. It seems to me that power is over centralised in the hands of the president in the US. Just taking George W Bush's whim to invade Iraq in causing the deaths of half a million, a million, who know. I hope the God he served gives him the hiding he deserves. Now we are all at threat from an ignorant prejudiced man for whom the lauded 'checks and balances' have been distorted and perverted away - witness the flagrant abuse of process regarding Judge Neil Gorsuch. The USA is a present clear danger to all of us. Witness the Christian websites lighting up with excitement at the scrapping of the nuclear treaties because, and they might be right, it is a sign that we have reached The End Times. According to the film Mr Cheney was the man who pretty much directed the show as he had his sights on being president but had to withdraw so when his lawyer friend realised there was a way to actually take control of things using an instrument called "Unitary executive theory" where the president has ultimate control of the executive under article 2 of the US constitution, well that's what I remember of it. Not sure whether any of this is true but it certainly made the film interesting none the less. Apparently the premise all along was that IRAQ was not involved, The security teams had already briefed as such there sure was a lot of Oil to be had - not unlike the present situation in Venezuela perhaps. Who knows what the truth is but it may not all be under the control of Mr Trump...
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Post by michaelc on Feb 2, 2019 23:35:01 GMT
I have to say I really find it unpleasant that word being used in that context. It dehumanises people. They're not people anymore, not even migrants - just illegals. If you start by calling someone an "illegal" and not a person, you perhaps treat them as such. It makes it much easier psychologically to treat them badly. For the record I certainly do believe in immigration controls and I actually voted in favour of exiting the EU (although for reasons other than free movement).
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Post by cb25 on Feb 3, 2019 15:29:56 GMT
I have to say I really find it unpleasant that word being used in that context. One should view it as short-hand for "people who have knowingly committed an illegal act".
I think if we had a land border with France, we'd have seen calls for a wall at the times of the Calais camps (where people were definitely intent on gaining illegal access to the UK) and/or when Merkel invited 100,000s of people into Germany (some I'm sure would have decided to come to the UK).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 16:10:41 GMT
Trump is trying for a second term. To achieve a second term he has to be able to say
1) He did as promised 2) The stock market is booming at the vote date 3) Unemployment is down at the vote date
So far he has cowed the FED to avoid interest rate rises until 2021, he will "win" (what we call lose) the trade war with China in 2019 and he does something that he calls "build a wall".
He is already building the wall (the money is being spent), he has stated that clearly, the $5.7b is peanuts compared to a complete wall so it doesn't matter to him as long as it is more than $1.8B which is what the Dems offered last time.
The wall does not work. So far we know that most drugs and criminals drive in by truck or fly in. If it gets too tricky they even dig a tunnel under the wall. The environmental damage/change coming with a wall is unknown. The German wall has produced some amazing green spaces untouched by humans for 30 years (ignoring mines exploding). But like in Germany people just passed through Hungary.
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Post by xtab on Feb 20, 2019 14:53:54 GMT
Suprised the fat boy hasn't approached Lendy or FS for the cash. My first reaction on reading that was to LOL. But then I realised that if he had, there's a good chance that the request would pass their "rigorous DD checks".
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Post by j1 on Feb 20, 2019 22:00:41 GMT
It would cost too much!
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Post by martin44 on Mar 4, 2019 22:39:16 GMT
When the Dover/Calais jungle became unsustainable, we (the UK) completed what was considered a legitimate security necessity.. we and France, built a wall around the Calais port..... similar restrictions were also taken by Hungary.. mention the name "Trump" and it all takes on a completely different perspective.
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Post by martin44 on Mar 4, 2019 23:27:29 GMT
Just seen the film, VICE at our local cinema, if its even half true then Trump may not be the issue but the people near to him maybe. If there a Dick Cheney lookalike somewhere nearby then i'd not be surprised if they are Trump's puppeteer. That said over here we are not short of manipulators like cheney, after all what is a "Hard working family" anyway. It seems to me that power is over centralised in the hands of the president in the US. Just taking George W Bush's whim to invade Iraq in causing the deaths of half a million, a million, who know. I hope the God he served gives him the hiding he deserves. Now we are all at threat from an ignorant prejudiced man for whom the lauded 'checks and balances' have been distorted and perverted away - witness the flagrant abuse of process regarding Judge Neil Gorsuch. The USA is a present clear danger to all of us. Witness the Christian websites lighting up with excitement at the scrapping of the nuclear treaties because, and they might be right, it is a sign that we have reached The End Times. My bold. You conveniently forgot to mention Tony Blair. edit.. And his odious wife and son (Another debate for another time )
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Post by registerme on Mar 5, 2019 0:15:41 GMT
When the Dover/Calais jungle became unsustainable, we (the UK) completed what was considered a legitimate security necessity.. we and France, built a wall around the Calais port..... similar restrictions were also taken by Hungary.. mention the name "Trump" and it all takes on a completely different perspective. I don't really understand this. Please would you expand on it / explain? Thanks, RM
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Post by Greenwood2 on Mar 5, 2019 8:59:39 GMT
There was an interesting programme on tv about the US Mexican border, it seems there is a lot of high tech monitoring, high resolution long distance cctv surveillance (night vision, heat sensing stuff as well) in the remote areas with rapid response border guards to intercept people trying to cross. There are short sections of barriers in some high population high risk places. There didn't seem to be a need for a full physical barrier.
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