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Post by adrianc on Oct 16, 2021 6:51:12 GMT
<cough> Can I point to the actual court judgement I linked to?
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Post by martin44 on Oct 16, 2021 20:08:30 GMT
<cough> Can I point to the actual court judgement I linked to? you can.. but.. 48 pages long.. TLDR .
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Post by keitha on Oct 16, 2021 21:40:08 GMT
Read it.
Basically he's a typical bully.
I think his biggest issue is the cameras covering the driveway that isn't his property but also picks up her property.
Interestingly the no record zones on these cameras are a bit odd it appears you can only have 2 and they are rectangular. so I can block out my neighbours front door and bedroom window but it will record people walking up to the front door.
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 17, 2021 8:36:26 GMT
<cough> Can I point to the actual court judgement I linked to? you can.. but.. 48 pages long.. TLDR . well you hardly need to read 48 pages. The first few can be skipped as its the outline of the case and the players. I only read as far as p9 to substantiate my initial impression that the defendant has been and is a complete a**e. And a liar. In fact you only need really to get as far as p7, para 26 of the judgement to get a flavour: "I found the Defendant Mr Woodard to be a very poor witness. He admitted that some of his evidence was incorrect. Different accounts given at different times contradicted each other. Some of it he changed in oral evidence as he went along, as difficulties with his evidence were revealed by Mr Phipps’ questioning. Much of his evidence was exaggerated. Some of it is contradicted by contemporaneous documentation or correspondence. Some of it was simply unbelievable. In several ways, I found him to be untruthful. I can believe almost nothing that he tells the Court unless it is supported by other evidence which is both credible and reliable, or the inherent probabilities. Where his evidence is in direct conflict with that of the Claimant and Dr Franich, I prefer their evidence." EDIT: Good to see that even court judgements can contain typos:
In a piece about whether the driveway camera was operational, there were statements about it not being in range of the defendant's wi-fi. Amongst the discussion on this, is the marvellous titbit: "He eventually accepted in cross-examination that the Driveway Camera was in wife range,..."
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 17, 2021 8:44:23 GMT
I'm not sure about 'only one side of the story' though. I read that link (what was it, the Daily Wail?) and it seemed pretty clear to me from the judges comments they reported that there was a lot lot more to this. Esp. as they are not even immediate next door neighbours. I suspect the guy has been a complete and utter *****. Very occasionally the law is an ass. In this instance, I suspect its more a case of the defendant having been a complete a**e. Perhaps but my point was that if you haven't read the case you really don't know. The DM is a great example of a paper that usually leans to one side or the other hence why I assume you wouldn't get the full story by reading the entire article. They were clearly on the side of the bloke that has to pay 100K so may have omitted details from the case. of course The Daily Wail put a sensationlist headline and set of words around it. That's how they sell copy. But even they reported the judges comments, and you hardly need much insight to be able to tell from the judges comments REPORTED BY the Mail that the guy was probably a complete a**e. So you have sensationalism and hype wrapped around some factual reporting which is pretty clear as to where blame was likely to lie.
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Post by keitha on Oct 17, 2021 9:09:15 GMT
I actually feel slightly sorry for his solicitors etc. fed an indefensible line of bull poop by the defendant.
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Post by adrianc on Oct 17, 2021 9:29:14 GMT
...and, as far as the "£100k" is concerned, the last section... In other words, no decision made yet by the judge as to how much Mr Unreliable Witness (aka Blatant Liar) has to pay. More information needed before he can decide.
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Post by pikestaff on Oct 17, 2021 10:37:39 GMT
...no decision made yet by the judge as to how much Mr Unreliable Witness (aka Blatant Liar) has to pay. More information needed before he can decide. B e f o r e: HER HONOUR JUDGE MELISSA CLARKE
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Post by adrianc on Oct 17, 2021 12:52:56 GMT
Oops...
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Post by agent69 on Oct 17, 2021 16:47:47 GMT
I actually feel slightly sorry for his solicitors etc. fed an indefensible line of bull poop by the defendant. I wouldn't. They will get paid either way.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Oct 17, 2021 17:58:53 GMT
Although for a long time women in anything like a 'high' position' always got Mr in correspondence. I remember a female friend getting something from the Institute of Civil Engineers addressed as dear Sir. Hope it's better now.
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Post by keitha on Oct 17, 2021 20:30:02 GMT
I remember being in front of a quite forthright judge when trying to sort out access to my daughters,
I turned up at court Suit, shirt and tie polished shoes, She turned up in leggings and an anorak,
Her barrister ( she was on legal aid ) was the old fashioned battleaxe in tweeds and brogues, and was up from London, against my local solicitor.
at the end the Judge was summing up
I can distinctly remember that the Judge said "listening to and reading her evidence, I find it incredible" leading to high fives between her and the Barrister"
He then turned to me and said "on the other hand, I find your evidence totally credible"
I nearly had to laugh looking across and seeing the barristers face drop
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Post by adrianc on Oct 18, 2021 6:53:25 GMT
Although for a long time women in anything like a 'high' position' always got Mr in correspondence. I remember a female friend getting something from the Institute of Civil Engineers addressed as dear Sir. Hope it's better now. Which is precisely why I normally try to be gender-neutral in the terms I use unless I know... I thought I'd read this case had a male judge. I was clearly wrong...
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Post by bernythedolt on Oct 23, 2021 0:22:14 GMT
So these "doorbells"... or covert listening devices as I prefer to think of them... can capture audio clearly from a distance approaching 68 feet, according to the small experiment conducted in that trial. I can see an awful lot more court cases arising. My next door neighbours either side have them and they make me feel uncomfortable. A private conversation on my own doorstep is now impossible. The sooner they are outlawed the better.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 0:54:47 GMT
So these "doorbells"... or covert listening devices as I prefer to think of them... can capture audio clearly from a distance approaching 68 feet, according to the small experiment conducted in that trial. I can see an awful lot more court cases arising. My next door neighbours either side have them and they make me feel uncomfortable. A private conversation on my own doorstep is now impossible. The sooner they are outlawed the better. There are some fascinating legal possibilities here. For example, what if the cameras/doorbells capture footage or audio of a neighbours children playing in their own garden? Illicit recording of minors could make for an interesting court case...
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