sapphire
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Post by sapphire on Apr 29, 2022 16:57:50 GMT
New loan added today under Pending.
Includes the Loan Request Summary and the Valuation Report, so looks like this may go live soon?
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Post by eeyore on Apr 29, 2022 18:27:11 GMT
Yes, one of the emails today from Proplend said that this loan will go live next week.
Note: to avoid further confusion, this is the Bloxwich Land with Outline Planning loan - not Birmingham L*** with O*** P***
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Post by sapphire on Apr 29, 2022 18:32:31 GMT
Yes, one of the emails today from Proplend said that this loan will go live next week. Just received the self-select email. Min £2k!
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Post by eeyore on Apr 29, 2022 18:58:48 GMT
This afternoon's email about the repayment of the Wembley W*** loan said: "The next loan to go live will be B*** L*** w*** P*** next week". By "live" Proplend must mean when Self-Select lenders should contribute funds (it's Wednesday 4th with allocation on Thursday 5th). Always-On clients never get told anything anyway...
The minimum £2k will block many lenders - that could come back to bite them if the loan proves difficult to fill - shades of the Birmingham loan!
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Post by gramsky on Apr 29, 2022 22:38:08 GMT
Yes, one of the emails today from Proplend said that this loan will go live next week. Just received the self-select email. Min £2k! But 'Self-select' accepts £1000 so what happens?
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Post by sapphire on Apr 30, 2022 3:16:32 GMT
Just received the self-select email. Min £2k! But 'Self-select' accepts £1000 so what happens? I think PL will either fix this IT lapse or else only allocate bids in £2k multiples and ignore any odd £1K selected. Based on past experience, I don't expect PL to relax the £2k multiple requirement.
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Post by sapphire on Apr 30, 2022 4:20:53 GMT
Following yesterday's loan, I have only £1K available to invest. Even if I had £2K I don't think I would be investing in this one.
Overall I think the interest rate offered does not suitably compensate for the additional inherent risks in this bridging loan.
IMHO, this one carries a lot more risks than the one drawn down yesterday and the additional interest on offer does not adequately reward bearing these extra risks.
I am particularly wary of valuations based on the "residual" method (which this one this) as they are based on a lot more assumptions compared to other methods and can be a lot sensitive to a change in any one.
Also, there are a number of other inherent risks as regards things which need to happen or not happen for this loan to be able to successfully redeem.
I think this one particularly needs a close and detailed read of the loan request summary and the valuation report before making one's decision.
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Post by bababill on Apr 30, 2022 5:58:22 GMT
Well that's naughty .. my maximum auto bid was selected to 2k on two accounts and I ended up with 8K total "investment through AutoLend Always On." Super bang out of order. Also wouldn't have even happened if Wembley didn't redeem.
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Post by sapphire on Apr 30, 2022 6:17:11 GMT
Well that's naughty .. my maximum auto bid was selected to 2k on two accounts and I ended up with 8K total "investment through AutoLend Always On." Super bang out of order. Also wouldn't have even happened if Wembley didn't redeem. 8k across 2 accounts suggests £4k across each account and with a max £2k autobus this suggests £2k in each of Tranches A and B? Is this correct? Asking as I thought only Tranche A was allocated in Autolend always on, so wondering if this rule has now changed and Tranche B is now also allocated?
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Post by sapphire on Apr 30, 2022 6:19:35 GMT
Well that's naughty .. my maximum auto bid was selected to 2k on two accounts and I ended up with 8K total "investment through AutoLend Always On." Super bang out of order. Also wouldn't have even happened if Wembley didn't redeem. If not happy, suggest getting in touch with PL asap as they may agree to cancel your (unwanted) allocation in the circumstances.
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Post by sapphire on Apr 30, 2022 7:00:42 GMT
Autolend allocation is usually done two business days the funding (and self-select allocation) date. So with the funding date being Thu 5th May, the Autolend would usually have been allocated on Tue 3rd May.
As in this instance Autolend allocation has been done earlier than this, it raises the question if someone had a 'cunning plan' to quickly 'grab' the funds from Friday's redemption before investors had sufficient time to react and withdraw it.
This combined with the timing of the publication of details of this new loan (only appeared under 'Pending' loans) only the day (and it seems like *after*) Autolend was allocated, makes one question PL's true motives, intentions and objectives.
Whilst this appears to be an 'urgent' loan arranged at short notice, the procedural timings of fund raising could and should have been dealt with better.
Happy to be corrected if I am missing something.
As PL no longer contribute to this forum, not expecting an official response.
I was expecting better from PL and going forward my expectations have been lowered following this.
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Post by bababill on Apr 30, 2022 7:55:45 GMT
Well that's naughty .. my maximum auto bid was selected to 2k on two accounts and I ended up with 8K total "investment through AutoLend Always On." Super bang out of order. Also wouldn't have even happened if Wembley didn't redeem. 8k across 2 accounts suggests £4k across each account and with a max £2k autobus this suggests £2k in each of Tranches A and B? Is this correct? Asking as I thought only Tranche A was allocated in Autolend always on, so wondering if this rule has now changed and Tranche B is now also allocated? No your understanding is not correct. :-) I had maximum bid of 2k. But I received 4k of A. But because I have two accounts I received a total of 8k of A. :-( Basically they have a token method of allocations and instead of allocating in 1k amounts it somehow defaulted to 2k amounts. So if I had a minimum bid of say 3k I would have received 6k equaling 12K of A! (assuming funds were on deposit). arrrrgh... oh why oh why did Wembley loan have to redeem early. :-( Edit.. just saw the borrower is a "known" borrower so at least I am happy on that front.
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Post by sapphire on Apr 30, 2022 8:31:57 GMT
8k across 2 accounts suggests £4k across each account and with a max £2k autobus this suggests £2k in each of Tranches A and B? Is this correct? Asking as I thought only Tranche A was allocated in Autolend always on, so wondering if this rule has now changed and Tranche B is now also allocated? No your understanding is not correct. :-) I had maximum bid of 2k. But I received 4k of A. But because I have two accounts I received a total of 8k of A. :-( Basically they have a token method of allocations and instead of allocating in 1k amounts it somehow defaulted to 2k amounts. So if I had a minimum bid of say 3k I would have received 6k equaling 12K of A! (assuming funds were on deposit). arrrrgh... oh why oh why did Wembley loan have to redeem early. :-( Edit.. just saw the borrower is a "known" borrower so at least I am happy on that front. Thanks for clarifying. In the circumstances I think PL should cancel your unexpected allocation if you wish to do so and contact them.
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Post by overthehill on Apr 30, 2022 9:29:33 GMT
8k across 2 accounts suggests £4k across each account and with a max £2k autobus this suggests £2k in each of Tranches A and B? Is this correct? Asking as I thought only Tranche A was allocated in Autolend always on, so wondering if this rule has now changed and Tranche B is now also allocated? No your understanding is not correct. :-) I had maximum bid of 2k. But I received 4k of A. But because I have two accounts I received a total of 8k of A. :-( Basically they have a token method of allocations and instead of allocating in 1k amounts it somehow defaulted to 2k amounts. So if I had a minimum bid of say 3k I would have received 6k equaling 12K of A! (assuming funds were on deposit). arrrrgh... oh why oh why did Wembley loan have to redeem early. :-( Edit.. just saw the borrower is a "known" borrower so at least I am happy on that front.
. If true, what you're describing sounds like a Proplend cock-up. Your max investment per loan has nothing to do with the minimum investment per loan.
. Only Tranche A is allocated with Always On Autolend.
. If you're unhappy about allocations I'm sure Proplend will adjust them.
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Post by eeyore on Apr 30, 2022 10:19:08 GMT
Well that's naughty .. my maximum auto bid was selected to 2k on two accounts and I ended up with 8K total "investment through AutoLend Always On." Obviously, this fault of allowing allocations to exceed a lender's specified AutoLend "Maximum Investment per Loan" hasn't been fixed. The fault was reported by multiple lenders last June with the Birmingham R*** loan which also had a £2k minimum. See p2pindependentforum.com/thread/18653/birmingham-pll0994
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