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Post by registerme on Jan 22, 2024 8:48:32 GMT
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Post by jonno on Jan 22, 2024 10:24:25 GMT
Oh my God!!!! You've created a monster; this is going to be a long.............long.........................................thread 
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Post by benaj on Jan 22, 2024 11:38:34 GMT
Despite years of public inquiry on the Post Office private prosecution, nobody blinked an eye regarding the "lawyers" acted on behalf of POL. I have never looked at the "evidence" being used in courts, but what exactly these "lawyers" used to "prove" how these sub-postmasters "stole" the "shortfall" amount? Are those lawyers being not responsible for injustice?
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Post by adrianc on Jan 22, 2024 12:13:39 GMT
...but what exactly these "lawyers" used to "prove" how these sub-postmasters "stole" the "shortfall" amount? Horizon software data. (And, yes, therein lies the issue...)No. Lawyers present the client's case. They don't have to believe it.
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Post by eeyore on Jan 22, 2024 13:18:56 GMT
No. Lawyers present the client's case. They don't have to believe it. 1. I'd expect that the lawyers (barristers & solicitors) will, at some stage, be subject to reviews by the professional standards committees of their professional bodies (Bar Council, SRA, etc). 2. The lawyers do have a responsibility towards their clients. If, for example, the client (The Post Office) contracted with a lawyer to review the likelyhood of a successful outcome of legal action then, depending on what the lawyer presented in their findings, then this might give rise to potential liability.
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Post by bernythedolt on Jan 22, 2024 19:14:03 GMT
I don't disagree that it's outrageous and wrong in a supposedly wealthy country, but a lot of the problems pre-date this government, like the crumbling reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete. I doubt Labour-run Wales, for example, is any further ahead of the game? Sadly, I suspect these problems will continue for some time, irrespective of who takes control, because it's difficult to see where the money will come from to put everything right that needs and deserves to be put right.
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Post by registerme on Jan 22, 2024 19:23:22 GMT
I don't disagree that it's outrageous and wrong in a supposedly wealthy country, but a lot of the problems pre-date this government, like the crumbling reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete. I doubt Labour-run Wales, for example, is any further ahead of the game? Sadly, I suspect these problems will continue for some time, irrespective of who takes control, because it's difficult to see where the money will come from to put everything right that needs and deserves to be put right. That's fair. Though it should be remembered that "this government" has been in power since 2010.
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Post by michaelc on Jan 22, 2024 19:41:00 GMT
I don't disagree that it's outrageous and wrong in a supposedly wealthy country, but a lot of the problems pre-date this government, like the crumbling reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete. I doubt Labour-run Wales, for example, is any further ahead of the game? Sadly, I suspect these problems will continue for some time, irrespective of who takes control, because it's difficult to see where the money will come from to put everything right that needs and deserves to be put right. By not having gimmick tax cuts before the election?
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Post by benaj on Jan 22, 2024 19:56:30 GMT
I don't disagree that it's outrageous and wrong in a supposedly wealthy country, but a lot of the problems pre-date this government, like the crumbling reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete. I doubt Labour-run Wales, for example, is any further ahead of the game? Sadly, I suspect these problems will continue for some time, irrespective of who takes control, because it's difficult to see where the money will come from to put everything right that needs and deserves to be put right. Well, if it was a simple maths problem, only 1% of school builds affected, they could increase the class size by 3% to accommodate the affected schools. Does it need a lot extra money to fix the issue, probably not when parents accept there’s not enough money to fix problems quickly. educationhub.blog.gov.uk/2023/12/06/new-guidance-on-raac-in-education-settings/
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Post by keitha on Jan 22, 2024 20:24:20 GMT
Of course there have always been problems in schools, I remember in the 1970's a large window falling out of the 4th floor in my senior school, and we had freezing cold portacabins for my whole senior school experience, but then I remember waking up in the winter and windows being frosted over on the inside.
I was in a good grammar school and we had 30-35 in a class as well
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Post by registerme on Jan 22, 2024 21:34:46 GMT
Of course there have always been problems in schools, I remember in the 1970's a large window falling out of the 4th floor in my senior school, and we had freezing cold portacabins for my whole senior school experience, but then I remember waking up in the winter and windows being frosted over on the inside. I was in a good grammar school and we had 30-35 in a class as well On the one hand that's fair. On the other just because there was "room for improvement" in your day doesn't invalidate "could try harder" nowadays.
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Post by bernythedolt on Jan 22, 2024 21:51:05 GMT
Of course there have always been problems in schools, I remember in the 1970's a large window falling out of the 4th floor in my senior school, and we had freezing cold portacabins for my whole senior school experience, but then I remember waking up in the winter and windows being frosted over on the inside. I was in a good grammar school and we had 30-35 in a class as well Same here, including my bedroom window frozen on the inside, breathing on the nets to unpeel them out of the ice. But my school was at least lovely and warm. I'd cycle in through the frost and chill, then stand against the warm air vents in the classroom. Bliss, except I still remember the intense pain in my fingers as they warmed up against the outlet grille. No child in the UK should have to sit in an unheated classroom in winter today, that's just fundamentally wrong.
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Post by benaj on Jan 23, 2024 8:22:22 GMT
I saw someone uploaded their AI personality to make $$$$ for fans. No idea how successful that is, but I can’t imagine the collateral damage when someone uploaded the like personality of MSE founder and take money with malicious intent and promoting stuffs that shouldn’t be allowed in the first place.
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Post by agent69 on Jan 25, 2024 10:45:47 GMT
Setting aside any views on the death penalty, I find it amazing that in a country where innocent people are killed so easily it appears almost impossible for the state to carry out the death penalty in an acceptable way.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 25, 2024 10:49:41 GMT
Setting aside any views on the death penalty, I find it amazing that in a country where innocent people are killed so easily it appears almost impossible for the state to carry out the death penalty in an acceptable way.
Air is 78% nitrogen. How big a leak from the mask he'd be wearing are they expecting?
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