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Post by bg on May 30, 2016 20:07:27 GMT
Except we aren't.
I find it hard to understand that the 'mods' think it inappropriate a discussion takes place because it 'may' become overheated.
We are all consenting adults, what's wrong with a discussion? Why does it even need moderating if nothing illegal or libelous is being said? Are we afraid someone's feelings may get hurt? I thought the mods were here to stop anything inappropriate being said about a loan or borrower. Anything else should be left alone.
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Post by mrclondon on May 30, 2016 20:35:49 GMT
The last EU thread descended into post after post of racial hatred, and was removed as it would have taken too long to clean up.
The p2p platforms do not want to be associated with that. The forum rules state quite clearly polite and constructive discussion only.
I have spent a ridiculous amount of time moderating this forum in the last ten days, as have other members of the mod team.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on May 30, 2016 21:08:16 GMT
/mod hat off
I think the clue is in the sub-forum's 'chat' title .. 'discuss' seems to all-too-often be interpreted into 'gee what can we have a really heated argument about'. I suppose one option is to just not have a 'chat' area at all ... forumites (presumably) have a common interest in P2P (although sometimes I wonder), and maybe finance in general, but beyond that they can be expected to (and do) have radically different views and interest on politics, religion, humour, ethics, or anything else you can dream up.
Personally speaking I'd be interested to hear these other viewpoints, if they weren't so often expressed solely in terms of how some previous poster's viewpoint is clearly wrong, &/or the poster in question is mentally/morally/ethically defective, and the one true viewpoint should be obvious to all and enshrined in law (anyone disagreeing to be burned at the stake, or similar).
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Post by yorkshireman on May 31, 2016 9:32:18 GMT
The last EU thread descended into post after post of racial hatred, and was removed as it would have taken too long to clean up.
Whilst I appreciate that there are potential legal pitfalls and the mods have more to do than spend all their time monitoring posts, I find that remark to be offensive although I must emphasise that this is not a personal criticism or addressed to mrclondon . If telling the truth about towns and cities that one is familiar with and regularly visit, such as Dewsbury (I was born there) and Bradford (I worked there for many years) is considered racial hatred then this country has sunk to new lows and has become nothing more than a politically correct tin pot dictatorship. If, like myself and several contributors to this forum appear to do, you live in a rural area then you may well be blissfully ignorant and insulated from the reality of places such as those named above but that is no excuse for labelling accurate commentary as racial hatred.
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Post by adrianc on May 31, 2016 9:52:54 GMT
The last EU thread descended into post after post of racial hatred, and was removed as it would have taken too long to clean up. Whilst I appreciate that there are potential legal pitfalls and the mods have more to do than spend all their time monitoring posts, I find that remark to be offensive although I must emphasise that this is not a personal criticism or addressed to mrclondon . If telling the truth about towns and cities that one is familiar with and regularly visit, such as Dewsbury (I was born there) and Bradford (I worked there for many years) is considered racial hatred then this country has sunk to new lows and has become nothing more than a politically correct tin pot dictatorship. If, like myself and several contributors to this forum appear to do, you live in a rural area then you may well be blissfully ignorant and insulated from the reality of places such as those named above but that is no excuse for labelling accurate commentary as racial hatred. I do live in a rural area. It is very monocultural - actually, that's not quite true. The "indigenous"* population is massively outnumbered by the only other ethnicity that is considered relevant round here. "People from off". If you're from off, you're from off. Doesn't matter how far off you're from. It's off. I've also lived in the middle of Slough, in South-East London, on the edge of Luton, between Watford and Aylesbury, and various other places which are definitely not as uniformly pale as round here. And, d'you know what? IMHO, it's round here that's the poorer for it. The truth you tell is YOUR VIEW OF THE TRUTH, no more, no less. That's not just you, of course - we can each only tell what we perceive as the truth, through whatever internal filters we apply, consciously or subconsciously. This is basic human nature. That "truth", as you told it in that previous thread, was very easily interpreted as being something that you assure us it wasn't. I, for one, found it much easier to interpret that way than it was to square it with your assurances. You were not the only one, of course. And you are entitled to your opinion - just as I am entitled to mine. * - we'll leave the deliberate misappropriation of that very precise term for elsewhere and elsewhen, apart from to point out that there quite simply is no "indigenous" population on this small lump of Northern European rock, as anybody with even the vaguest grasp of history knows.
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Post by yorkshireman on May 31, 2016 10:02:19 GMT
Whilst I appreciate that there are potential legal pitfalls and the mods have more to do than spend all their time monitoring posts, I find that remark to be offensive although I must emphasise that this is not a personal criticism or addressed to mrclondon . If telling the truth about towns and cities that one is familiar with and regularly visit, such as Dewsbury (I was born there) and Bradford (I worked there for many years) is considered racial hatred then this country has sunk to new lows and has become nothing more than a politically correct tin pot dictatorship. If, like myself and several contributors to this forum appear to do, you live in a rural area then you may well be blissfully ignorant and insulated from the reality of places such as those named above but that is no excuse for labelling accurate commentary as racial hatred. I do live in a rural area. It is very monocultural - actually, that's not quite true. The "indigenous"* population is massively outnumbered by the only other ethnicity that is considered relevant round here. "People from off". If you're from off, you're from off. Doesn't matter how far off you're from. It's off. I've also lived in the middle of Slough, in South-East London, on the edge of Luton, between Watford and Aylesbury, and various other places which are definitely not as uniformly pale as round here. And, d'you know what? IMHO, it's round here that's the poorer for it. The truth you tell is YOUR VIEW OF THE TRUTH, no more, no less. That's not just you, of course - we can each only tell what we perceive as the truth, through whatever internal filters we apply, consciously or subconsciously. This is basic human nature. That "truth", as you told it in that previous thread, was very easily interpreted as being something that you assure us it wasn't. I, for one, found it much easier to interpret that way than it was to square it with your assurances. You were not the only one, of course. And you are entitled to your opinion - just as I am entitled to mine. * - we'll leave the deliberate misappropriation of that very precise term for elsewhere and elsewhen, apart from to point out that there quite simply is no "indigenous" population on this small lump of Northern European rock, as anybody with even the vaguest grasp of history knows. “I do live in a rural area. It is very monocultural - actually, that's not quite true. The "indigenous"* population is massively outnumbered by the only other ethnicity that is considered relevant round here. "People from off". If you're from off, you're from off. Doesn't matter how far off you're from. It's off.” I believe that you are referring to East Europeans if memory serves me correctly which is not a problem IMO. "I've also lived in the middle of Slough, in South-East London, on the edge of Luton, between Watford and Aylesbury, and various other places which are definitely not as uniformly pale as round here. And, d'you know what? IMHO, it's round here that's the poorer for it." So if Slough etc was so marvellous why did you leave? It’s easy to be holier than thou when you’re based in a rural area. I think we had better call it a draw at that as I would hate to see another thread locked. 
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Post by adrianc on May 31, 2016 10:14:50 GMT
I do live in a rural area. It is very monocultural - actually, that's not quite true. The "indigenous"* population is massively outnumbered by the only other ethnicity that is considered relevant round here. "People from off". If you're from off, you're from off. Doesn't matter how far off you're from. It's off. I believe that you are referring to East Europeans if memory serves me correctly which is not a problem IMO. Far simpler than that. "People from off" are those who weren't born within a five or so mile radius of here. There's still a degree of suspicion if all four of your grandparents weren't. The optimum is for at least one of your grandparents to be shared with the person holding the opinion. As a rule of thumb, if you don't have at least one shared relative within three generations or so, you're not generally perceived as a relation... I am from off. There are people in this village - younger than many who post here - who say they've never left about a 20 mile radius of here, even once, in their entire lives. There are people in this village who don't regard themselves as local because they used to farm three miles away, in the other half of the parish. "They're not local. I remember them arriving. In 1956."
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Post by jonno on May 31, 2016 10:42:09 GMT
Why am I suddenly hearing the dulcet tones of "Duelling Banjos" hammering in my head?
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Post by adrianc on May 31, 2016 12:11:15 GMT
Why am I suddenly hearing the dulcet tones of "Duelling Banjos" hammering in my head? You've been here...?
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Post by jonno on May 31, 2016 12:34:18 GMT
Why am I suddenly hearing the dulcet tones of "Duelling Banjos" hammering in my head? You've been here...? Yeah; just a little boat trip. Mind you things didn't go quite as planned................ 
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Post by adrianc on May 31, 2016 12:48:16 GMT
"boat"? It'd have to be a rent-a-canoe... (They do tend to provide paddles, though)
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Post by wildlife2 on May 31, 2016 14:23:29 GMT
Yeah; just a little boat trip. Mind you things didn't go quite as planned................ Did you go over-board around the horseshoe bend? (sorry if this is 'off' topic) 
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Post by jonno on May 31, 2016 15:06:24 GMT
Yeah; just a little boat trip. Mind you things didn't go quite as planned................ Did you go over-board around the horseshoe bend? (sorry if this is 'off' topic) Yep; and the old slipway took a bit of a battering (Oooooo missus) 
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