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Post by sannytwist on Aug 10, 2017 10:43:29 GMT
Hi all, with the small number of daily loans on unbolted l'm surprised this is a sustainable business let alone a profitable one. What do others feel? Some days this p2p platform literally has the odd 1 or 2 small bling loan between a couple of hundred pounds to a few k.
While l see that there is no shortage of lenders signing up for the bling loans and perhaps like me have a small amount to drip feed across a diverse number of loans, the business must be able to make money on the long term?
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Post by IFISAcava on Aug 10, 2017 10:50:40 GMT
Hi all, with the small number of daily loans on unbolted l'm surprised this is a sustainable business let alone a profitable one. What do others feel? Some days this p2p platform literally has the odd 1 or 2 small bling loan between a couple of hundred pounds to a few k. While l see that there is no shortage of lenders signing up for the bling loans and perhaps like me have a small amount to drip feed across a diverse number of loans, the business must be able to make money on the long term? Huge margins on loans I think
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Post by stub8535 on Aug 10, 2017 11:04:10 GMT
The problem unbolted faces is the competition and just how long it has been established in some strata throughoit the social classes. We see loans coming through that enable people to bid at auction if that "must have" comes up at an inopportune moment. As many people now do so much online I think online pawn is not too far behind the curve. With a reduction in pawn on collateral and the massive Henry Moore coming to FS there is a clear niche with little competition. I am surprised that FS and coll bling of smaller values have not been taken over to Unbolted where intetest rates to lenders is lower so possibly this feeds through to the customer rate. Possible that revaluation may present a much lower figure, specially coming from fs, if they try to move from fs to ub. I do hope they can get scale to give continued profitability and growth without needing to go into buildings.
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Post by ben on Aug 10, 2017 11:23:41 GMT
Unbolted is like any pawn shop, but with the advantage that they do not need to put up the money themselves. If you look at unbolted.com/uk/interestrates/ then you can see how much they are charging so unless they have lots of staff, they don't need to do hundreds of loans a day to make a decent profit.
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Post by littonowl on Aug 10, 2017 11:31:27 GMT
I had the OP concerns about a year ago, but actually feel Unb is showing signs of now going from strength to strength. Seems to me recently the dealflow has improved, with more loans daily, and this may well have come about due to Fs and more recently Coll's moves away from bling. IMO they've now got very little competition in this niche area and their main opposition would now presumably be regular bricks and mortar pawn shops. AIUI Unb offer much better borrower rates than what's available on the high street, but still produce very attractive margins for themselves (there's an excellent blog post highlighting the positives of their disruptive business model floating about somewhere). Edit: ...and here it is: unbolted.com/uk/blog/thinking-pawning-your-assets-unbolted-offers-cheaper-more-discrete-alternative/
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Post by stub8535 on Aug 10, 2017 11:56:55 GMT
I have noticed that ub loans tend to be renewals in the main. They pay the original lenders back and then run auto allocation. The effect for people who have been investing since quite early on is a reducing holding. This freed up cash, in the main, seems to have been sucked up by the larger loans, which are new, as they come along. This has lead to a fairly decent portfolio with less spiky investments. On the recoveries front I find they are pretty much on the ball and have, I think, not made a loss at auction for lenders. I am bouncing along with, on average 6 lates. 5 of which are up to 1 month past due and 1 from April that is in a specialist auction later in the month.
I see the trend towards smaller allocations over time unless the number of new loans keeps pace with demand for lending.
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