rs
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Post by rs on Oct 26, 2017 20:10:17 GMT
I could not see a thread for this loan. Looks like one of the developers with a history of a few FS loans. Loan is over a year old and still no photos confirming what work has been done on the site. No recent valuation either. But of course the developer is all truthful but what happened to the money. Hopefully FS have all the facts and will update all investors before the loans goes live again tomorrow.
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Post by angrykittens on Oct 27, 2017 6:49:14 GMT
I could not see a thread for this loan. Looks like one of the developers with a history of a few FS loans. Loan is over a year old and still no photos confirming what work has been done on the site. No recent valuation either. But of course the developer is all truthful but what happened to the money. Hopefully FS have all the facts and will update all investors before the loans goes live again tomorrow. I consider this renewal the right time to get out. In April "Development Work has commenced" 6 months later: Site has now been cleared and prepared for ongoing development. There's an old ICI industrial site near me that was a major chemical plant for many decades and in not far over 6 months they've cleared the site and put umpteen new houses up! The LTV ratio is one of the more tempting on FS but this may well turn into another typical Funding Secure Saga.
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Post by charlata on Oct 27, 2017 7:53:51 GMT
There are plenty of opportunities on Google to buy flats off-plan at J****** Mount. I imagine the developer is waiting to have enough units sold off plan to make the project look profitable. If he finds enough buyers, he'll develop. Until then, he'll roll the loan over.
On the down-side, he's not yet found enough buyers, which suggest that uptake is slow. On the up-side, he's not rolled up the interest, which suggests he still hopes this one might come off.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Oct 27, 2017 9:38:55 GMT
26/10/17 Update The old buildings have been demolished and the site fully cleared and levelled. As this is a renewal of a loan, rather than additional borrowing, we have not commissioned a new survey.
fundingsecure Can we have a photograph (exif data for date taken retained) each time you write this about a development loan please? My doctor says I am suffering from Whitehaven Syndrome, which gives me the twitches.
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rs
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Post by rs on Oct 27, 2017 9:54:54 GMT
26/10/17 Update The old buildings have been demolished and the site fully cleared and levelled. As this is a renewal of a loan, rather than additional borrowing, we have not commissioned a new survey.
FS. Can we have a photograph (exif data for date taken retained) each time you write this about a development loan please? My doctor says I am suffering from Whitehaven Syndrome, which gives me the twitches.
I asked FS yesterday and they said they will update the loan before it goes live. They have 6 minutes remaining to update the loan!
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Post by r1200gs on Oct 27, 2017 9:56:54 GMT
26/10/17 Update The old buildings have been demolished and the site fully cleared and levelled. As this is a renewal of a loan, rather than additional borrowing, we have not commissioned a new survey.
FS. Can we have a photograph (exif data for date taken retained) each time you write this about a development loan please? My doctor says I am suffering from Whitehaven Syndrome, which gives me the twitches.
Yea, it's a common disease these days, Whitehaven syndrome! Seriously though, it takes very little work to get photo updates of all these developments and it should be absolutely standard. Just a few pics on the phone and shipped of to FS in a twinkle of an eye. Given the backlash of Whitehaven, I'm surprised we even need to ask for them to be honest.
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Post by mikes1531 on Oct 28, 2017 2:23:18 GMT
... I'm surprised we even need to ask for them to be honest. It's a sorry state of affairs when we have to ask for them to be honest.
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Post by mrclondon on Nov 18, 2017 23:31:11 GMT
As mentioned earlier in the thread, FS are providing a number of loans to this borrower and a couple of sister SPVs (see thread Are all the Liverpool / Birkenhead loans linked? ) The Sept 16 VR states that phase 1 is for 10 flats in two blocks, and phase 2 and for an additional 18 flats. It references the approved outline planning permission for phase 1 but the surveyor states he was unable to locate a planning application/decision for phase 2. Well, the surveyor clearly didn't look hard enough for the phase 2 planning application which was submitted several months before he wrote the VR, but to be fair it is registered under a slightly different address. (Links to both planning applications are in DD Central). Phase 1 was approved with conditions in Jan 12, phase 2 with conditions in Oct 16. I am though unable to find any associated planning applications/submissions for the discharge of the conditions needed before the development can start for real.
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Post by steve11523 on May 16, 2018 8:51:39 GMT
Loan to be renewed at an amount of £487,500 - up from previous 420,000 to cover interests and selling costs. Borrower is to sell the site rather than develop.
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Post by trium on May 16, 2018 10:12:23 GMT
But since the original Oct 2016 loan was to develop a site the borrower already owns, and he has not in fact developed the site beyond preparatory clearing, why can he not simply repay the loan?
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Post by rogerthat on May 16, 2018 10:24:20 GMT
1000-2000-3000 Ripcord
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on May 16, 2018 10:29:48 GMT
But since the original Oct 2016 loan was to develop a site the borrower already owns, and he has not in fact developed the site beyond preparatory clearing, why can he not simply repay the loan? I would suggest they currently have insufficient funds to pay it back, and even less so to develop it. There may or may not be a buyer lined up, that will probably be answered in 6 months time. Not for me.
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Post by mrclondon on Sept 2, 2018 17:34:48 GMT
Photos taken 11 am yesterday (1st Sept) The site is a very steep corner plot terraced into two halves. The upper half is for phase 1 with two blocks left and right on the terrace, and phase two the lower terrace alongside the main road (O** C****** Rd). There is a brick retaining wall between the two terraces which can be seen in the photo. There is a similiar block of flats on the other side of H*** Rd so feels the right solution for the plot, and a plausible development proposal. Backs onto light industrial units (mainly car servicing and similiar).
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Post by paulb on Feb 1, 2019 15:34:05 GMT
There may or may not be a buyer lined up, that will probably be answered in 6 months time. It's taken a little longer than 6 months, but the question has been answered - this loan has now been defaulted. My reading of the valuation leads me to believe the LTV is based on the (then-)current state of the property, rather than relying on the development work. This means we should be reasonably safe, assuming the valuation is in any way accurate. Right? Right....?
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Post by coop on Feb 1, 2019 15:42:03 GMT
How they can default this but not the paintings etc is COMPLETELY beyond me
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