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Post by mrclondon on Nov 9, 2017 14:35:43 GMT
The liability to defend such legal action rests soley on the shoulders of the person making the statement that maligns the individual or legal entity concerned. In which case what is the reason for having a 2 tier platform? Can I refer you back to the earlier thread that discussed the rationale for considering the creation of DD Central, the results of the focus group votes (after discussion of the legal liability implications), and the existence of a "separate private forum".
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Post by shimself on Nov 9, 2017 15:28:44 GMT
In which case what is the reason for having a 2 tier platform? Can I refer you back to the earlier thread that discussed the rationale for considering the creation of DD Central, the results of the focus group votes (after discussion of the legal liability implications), and the existence of a "separate private forum". I don't think you can because I think it's gone, and in any case I thought the topic deserved passing in front of a new wider panel
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Post by eeyore on Nov 9, 2017 15:40:36 GMT
The liability to defend such legal action rests soley on the shoulders of the person making the statement that maligns the individual or legal entity concerned. In which case what is the reason for having a 2 tier platform? Although the liability might still rest upon the poster, I believe that it would have a major impact upon any damages. A libellous post which can be seen by anyone with access to the internet could cause much greater damage to the complainant and thus any financial recompense, than a post which could be seen only by closed group of a few hundred individuals (all of whom it could be claimed would be financially literate and less likely to be influenced by an erroneous post).
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Nov 9, 2017 15:44:30 GMT
Plus the open part of the forum can be (and is) regularly trawled and indexed by the Google (and other) crawler bots .. hence a (Google) search for 'XYZ address / company / etc.' is quite likely to spit out links to the forum, potentially putting any libel in front of the odd Billion or so readers (China need not apply). Closed areas are not subject to this level of data collection and archival.
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Post by eeyore on Nov 9, 2017 15:59:17 GMT
Plus the open part of the forum can be (and is) regularly trawled and indexed by the Google (and other) crawler bots. Apologies for diverging from the topic of the announcement and returning to the pros & cons for a closed group. It is possible to bar access to crawlers such as Google & Bing using the "robots.txt" facility. For the crawlers who don't respect the contents of robots.txt, it should be possible to bar access based upon IP address. But all that depends upon having access to such administrative facilities - all academic if the P2PIF administrators don't have such access.
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Post by mrclondon on Nov 9, 2017 16:08:05 GMT
Plus the open part of the forum can be (and is) regularly trawled and indexed by the Google (and other) crawler bots. Apologies for diverging from the topic of the announcement and returning to the pros & cons for a closed group. It is possible to bar access to crawlers such as Google & Bing using the "robots.txt" facility. For the crawlers who don't respect the contents of robots.txt, it should be possible to bar access based upon IP address. But all that depends upon having access to such administrative facilities - all academic if the P2PIF administrators don't have such access. Unfortunately forum staff do not have access to robots.txt, it is controlled by proboards at a higher level - the forum is in effect a sub-domain off proboards.
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Post by bigfoot12 on Nov 9, 2017 17:32:41 GMT
Access to DD Central is available to every forum member who has a historic post count of at least 50, Wouldn't it be better if it was [some number of] likes, perhaps 25?
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Post by jj on Nov 9, 2017 18:09:06 GMT
Access to DD Central is available to every forum member who has a historic post count of at least 50, Wouldn't it be better if it was [some number of] likes, perhaps 25? I would have thought that but you can give yourself a thumbs up as illustrated. (I never do this of course, but just to prove a point.)
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Post by elgerod on Nov 9, 2017 18:23:57 GMT
hmm... I wonder how I am going to get to the 50  Don't worry ... by the time you've reached 50, the target will have moved to 100 
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Post by trouble on Nov 9, 2017 18:35:30 GMT
just checking how many posts i've made
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Post by blueninja on Nov 9, 2017 22:19:23 GMT
just checking how many posts i've made Yes that's a clever way of checking your post count :-)
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Post by blueninja on Nov 9, 2017 22:20:25 GMT
just checking how many posts i've made Yes that's a clever way of checking your post count :-) Oh I've a way to go yet :-(
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Post by mrclondon on Nov 9, 2017 22:33:47 GMT
I'm not trying to be a spoilsport here, but before people get too trigger happy creating pointless posts across the forum just to get their post count up, please realise forum staff have the option to reduce individual's post count as we delete posts.
Pointless posts that get reported (via the Report Post option under the cog wheel menu) are liable to be deleted by forum staff, and the post count reduced accordingly.
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Post by locutus on Nov 9, 2017 22:54:03 GMT
I'm not trying to be a spoilsport here, but before people get too trigger happy creating pointless posts across the forum just to get their post count up, please realise forum staff have the option to reduce individual's post count as we delete posts. Pointless posts that get reported (via the Report Post option under the cog wheel menu) are liable to be deleted by forum staff, and the post count reduced accordingly. Why not just make the entry criteria "likes".
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Nov 9, 2017 22:57:47 GMT
I'm not trying to be a spoilsport here, but before people get too trigger happy creating pointless posts across the forum just to get their post count up, please realise forum staff have the option to reduce individual's post count as we delete posts. Pointless posts that get reported (via the Report Post option under the cog wheel menu) are liable to be deleted by forum staff, and the post count reduced accordingly. Why not just make the entry criteria "likes". Must admit I have found it amusing to watch, I would suggest 'likes' is a bit manipulatable. Many of the 'post accumulators' have been members for some time. Maybe a registered time offset against the required post count would be fair.
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