brianlom1
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He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!
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Post by brianlom1 on Dec 3, 2017 21:50:05 GMT
Ablrate 42.8% stable
Lendy 34.3% reducing
Moneything 3.2% stable
Archover 2.2% increasing
Funding Secure 1.4% stable
Growth Street 1.4% increasing
Collateral 1.3% stable
Primestox 1.1% increasing
Unbolted 0.6% increasing
Assetz Capital 0.5% increasing
Proplend 0.5% increasing
ReBS 0.1% excludes defaults and bad debt that I've written off
Funding Circle 0.0% excludes defaults and bad debt that I've written off
Ratesetter 0.0% will invest again if rates improve sufficiently
Cash 10.7% awaiting investment
I'm open to diversification suggestions, I recognise I'm invested in a lot of property-backed loans at the moment
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groon
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Post by groon on Dec 5, 2017 16:39:34 GMT
Assetz | 27.5% | steady | ZOPA | 23.25%
| steady | Bondmason | 17.33%
| slowly increasing | Octopus Choice | 14.75% | slowly increasing | Funding Circle | 8.5% | slowly decreasing | ReBS | 4% | abandoning sinking ship | Funding Knight | 3.66% | hoping they'll come back
| Ratesetter | 1%
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I used to have a lot more in FC, ReBS, FK and RS, whereas a year ago Bondmason and Octopus Choice were not in the picture at all.
This could be seen as a move away from excessive risk and towards relative security but I see it more as a move away from poorly-run platforms and towards better-run platforms (the exception being FK, who in my opinion were probably the best-run platform but who are not presently offering new business). This may (should?) of course amount to the same thing!
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greenslime
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Post by greenslime on Dec 5, 2017 17:29:50 GMT
Abl 32% not intending to change
MT 21% would increase given more loans
AC 21% not intending to change
UB 15% increasing, albeit slowly
FS 8% running down
Col 2% getting what comes out of FS
Gone this year - FC; gone in the next 12 months - FS.
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zendog
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Post by zendog on Dec 5, 2017 18:25:47 GMT
COLLATERAL (110 loans) - 46.2% MONEYTHING (77 loans) - 45.5% LENDING WORKS (IFISA) - 8.3%
Was in RS but withdrew earlier this year - although they sent me a letter on Saturday asking if I wanted to return!
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beh
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Post by beh on Dec 8, 2017 21:53:50 GMT
Interesting thread.
36% PP (don't own any property otherwise)
21% zopa (all safeguard, been running it down for a year or so)
15% wisealpha (plenty of choice, liking a lot of the new bonds offered)
12% RS (mostly 5yr, might increase when they launch IFISA)
9% growth st (could go either way after I get my welcome bonus next month)
6% abundance (all relatively short term)
I have an account with AC but haven't invested yet, waiting for their IFISA to launch.
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Post by df on Nov 3, 2018 7:54:07 GMT
I update it every month or two. This is my latest from 1st November. AC - 17% FS - 14% FC - 12% COL - 9% Zopa - 8% Ly - 7% MT - 6% UB - 6% LC - 6% RS - 5% GS - 5% Landbay - 2% Abl - 2% Rebs - 0.65% HC - 0.35% It is probably the same today, except Zopa and RS. I'm shifting Zopa repayments to RS as they come. One year later: AC - 18% FS - 7% FC - <1% COL - 6% Zopa - 3% Ly - 3% MT - 5% UB - 8% LC - 9% RS - 6% GS - 14% Landbay - withdrawn Abl - 4% Rebs - <1% HC - <1% BM - 9% Welendus - 3% LW - 2%
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Post by stevefindlay on Nov 3, 2018 8:13:20 GMT
My list is distorted by jumping into some of the early IFISA launchers, hope to deposit soon with Funding Circle and Assetz as they launch theirs and add to Moneything. Lending Works 22% Landbay 16% Ratesetter 15% Moneything 13% Lendy 13% Abundance 7% Goji 7% Zopa 6%
I have left Property Partner off the list as they aren't P2P but it would be the equivalent of 30% and growing. I would like to diversify my BTL holdings across platforms but find a lack of options.
Similar to IFISAcava I did use Bondmason and would still like to but they are massively tax inefficient without an IFISA wrapper ...... stevefindlay ? ? ? ?We have ISA eligible investments now available, please see our Chiltern Bond range: www.bondmason.com/chiltern-bondcoPlease note, as these have an equity cushion, their returns are similar to Ratesetter, rather than the higher return available from BondMason Core service.
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hazellend
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Post by hazellend on Nov 3, 2018 8:16:20 GMT
I update it every month or two. This is my latest from 1st November. AC - 17% FS - 14% FC - 12% COL - 9% Zopa - 8% Ly - 7% MT - 6% UB - 6% LC - 6% RS - 5% GS - 5% Landbay - 2% Abl - 2% Rebs - 0.65% HC - 0.35% It is probably the same today, except Zopa and RS. I'm shifting Zopa repayments to RS as they come. One year later: AC - 18% FS - 7% FC - <1% COL - 6% Zopa - 3% Ly - 3% MT - 5% UB - 8% LC - 9% RS - 6% GS - 14% Landbay - withdrawn Abl - 4% Rebs - <1% HC - <1% BM - 9% Welendus - 3% LW - 2% I would break out into a cold sweat at tax return time
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nyneil
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Post by nyneil on Nov 3, 2018 16:12:03 GMT
% of investable assets in P2P approx 12% Spread within P2P portfolio approx: ABL 5.0 Would increase if new borrowers Assetz 12.1 Steady Col 4.2 :-( FC 0.2 Stuck in defaulted loans FS IFISA 19.5 Reducing GS 7.3 Stable Kuf 8.8 Slowly increasing L 6.0 Reducing M&C 0.6 Stable, might increase MT 5.9 Stable, would inc if new borrowers RS 10.0 Stable U 10.0 Stable Welendus IFISA 10.4 Stable No single borrower has more than 0.25 to 0.5% of my total P2P pot, so i sleep reasonably well at night
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Post by df on Nov 3, 2018 17:03:46 GMT
% of investable assets in P2P approx 12% Spread within P2P portfolio approx: ABL 5.0 Would increase if new borrowers Assetz 12.1 Steady Col 4.2 :-( FC 0.2 Stuck in defaulted loans FS IFISA 19.5 Reducing GS 7.3 Stable Kuf 8.8 Slowly increasing L 6.0 Reducing M&C 0.6 Stable, might increase MT 5.9 Stable, would inc if new borrowers RS 10.0 Stable U 10.0 Stable Welendus IFISA 10.4 Stable No single borrower has more than 0.25 to 0.5% of my total P2P pot, so i sleep reasonably well at night That's a good position to be in. I'm trying to stay well below 0.5%, but sometimes it is very difficult to identify the same borrower (for example "paintings" borrower on FS). How do you deal with over exposure on Unbolted? I've set my limits very high and keep my cash limits higher that I'm willing to invest in a single loan in order to get a bit more of larger loans and it worked perfectly for a long time, but recently all my available cash was swallowed by a single loan. Not a big deal, because it is protected and still below 0.5%, but if I had more cash on the platform I could've gone above my self-imposed exposure limit.
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Post by df on Nov 3, 2018 17:09:35 GMT
Funding Circle and Unbolted are hidden just a tick above the 0% line. (Note that I still have Lendy listed as SavingStream in my spreadsheet) I still have it as Saving Stream too in my spreadsheet Still a valid name - my withdrawals appear as Saving Stream in my bank statement.
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nyneil
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Post by nyneil on Nov 3, 2018 17:39:21 GMT
% of investable assets in P2P approx 12% Spread within P2P portfolio approx: ABL 5.0 Would increase if new borrowers Assetz 12.1 Steady Col 4.2 :-( FC 0.2 Stuck in defaulted loans FS IFISA 19.5 Reducing GS 7.3 Stable Kuf 8.8 Slowly increasing L 6.0 Reducing M&C 0.6 Stable, might increase MT 5.9 Stable, would inc if new borrowers RS 10.0 Stable U 10.0 Stable Welendus IFISA 10.4 Stable No single borrower has more than 0.25 to 0.5% of my total P2P pot, so i sleep reasonably well at night That's a good position to be in. I'm trying to stay well below 0.5%, but sometimes it is very difficult to identify the same borrower (for example "paintings" borrower on FS). How do you deal with over exposure on Unbolted? I've set my limits very high and keep my cash limits higher that I'm willing to invest in a single loan in order to get a bit more of larger loans and it worked perfectly for a long time, but recently all my available cash was swallowed by a single loan. Not a big deal, because it is protected and still below 0.5%, but if I had more cash on the platform I could've gone above my self-imposed exposure limit. I don't look too closely at Unbolted, i just use auto invest and treat it as set and forget, similarly for Assetz and Growth Street.
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mjc
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Post by mjc on Nov 4, 2018 7:26:42 GMT
stevefindlay isn’t Absolute Return Bond name confusing/misleading? “The 3-year Absolute Return Bond has a coupon of 3.85% p.a.; the 1-year Absolute Return Bond has a coupon of 3.35% p.a. Capital is at risk. The value of investments may go down as well as up and you may not get back the original amount invested. The name Absolute Return Bond does not mean returns are guaranteed.” As there are closure AND transfer out fees, do BOTH or either apply at end of term? What happens in the event of death of investor? could this bond be held in a SIPP with say Hargreaves Landsdown? the coupon rate of 3.85% is lower than the AC QAA instant access at 4.1% or 30day at 5.1%. How much more / less secure is this Bond?
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Post by stevefindlay on Nov 4, 2018 8:59:58 GMT
stevefindlay isn’t Absolute Return Bond name confusing/misleading? “The 3-year Absolute Return Bond has a coupon of 3.85% p.a.; the 1-year Absolute Return Bond has a coupon of 3.35% p.a. Capital is at risk. The value of investments may go down as well as up and you may not get back the original amount invested. The name Absolute Return Bond does not mean returns are guaranteed.” As there are closure AND transfer out fees, do BOTH or either apply at end of term? What happens in the event of death of investor? could this bond be held in a SIPP with say Hargreaves Landsdown? the coupon rate of 3.85% is lower than the AC QAA instant access at 4.1% or 30day at 5.1%. How much more / less secure is this Bond? 'Absolute Return' is an investment management strategy which 'seeks to achieve a positive return in all (equity) market conditions'. This is the 3rd biggest strategy by AUM in the UK. Our bonds seek to achieve the same: a small return (relative to equity markets), but consistent regardless of equity volatility and cycles. And yes, your CAPITAL IS AT RISK. As it is with any Non-FSCS deposit protected investment. Fees: there is a single fee for ISA investors at the end of term, if the investor transfers out or closes their account - ie doesn't invest in another bond in the range. These are fees imposed by a third party (they charge others, but we don't pass those on). There are no fees outside of the ISA wrapper. Death: that is one of the few times you would be able to make an early encashment. We would waive any fees in these circumstances. HL SIPP: unlikely. We've not discuss it with HL recently, but it is likely to be classified as a non standard asset. And so sit outside of their criteria. Vs AC QAA: our understanding is that the AC account holds a portion of investor funds in cash to facilitate liquidity, but this increases cash drag and lowers the rate of return. To the best of our knowledge there isnt an equity buffer (or first loss provision) held by AC to protect investors in this account. The Absolute Return Bonds have an equity cushion of up to 2% - currently being built up - which is set at 5x the total losses across BM over the last 3 years. The equity cushion should enable the returns to be hit with greater certainty than the AC account target.
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cb25
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Post by cb25 on Nov 4, 2018 9:21:57 GMT
AC 41% FC 7% running down non-ISA account, ISA account currently performing OK
RS 45% Z+ 7% running down
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