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Post by benaj on Dec 13, 2017 17:23:31 GMT
Assuming the Zopa is right about the default rates under the current economic environment? roughly 5.5% in defaults for the money invested on Zopa plus, are you comfortable with projected return of 5%+ (after the bad debts)?
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Post by wyndstryke on Dec 13, 2017 17:31:22 GMT
I'm happy with the non-plus offering. I've always been cautious about the higher-risk offerings, I only have about 10% in Z+.
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Post by ozboy on Dec 13, 2017 18:16:42 GMT
Posted elsewhere earlier that I've only a *c£66 Balance left and will be completely shot of Zopa within a few months. Just like I managed to shake off Lendy. V happy! MUCH better havens available for your hard earned spondoolies. IMHO of course! * Down from middling four figures.
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Post by badboyyardy on Dec 13, 2017 21:47:56 GMT
Has their sign up process resumed I applied some months ago but still have not heard anything since?
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Post by benaj on Dec 14, 2017 18:33:44 GMT
Has their sign up process resumed I applied some months ago but still have not heard anything since? Not Sure. I know there is a long queue. I was about to join the queue opening new account 8 months ago but I didn’t. However, I managed to start my investment as an long time existing customer without money Invested with Zopa
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Post by newlender on Dec 15, 2017 8:39:27 GMT
Going back to the original question, no I'm not comfortable with my Z+ holding and I sold most of it in order to invest in their ISA Core offering. I have bitten the bullet though and have put £3k out of my £20k ISA money into the 'new' Z+ just to add a bit of spice. There are far fewer D/E loans in my portfolio now and those loans were my main concern in my original holding, so I hope to get the advertised rate tax-free. I have said elsewhere that the old Z+ was relatively unstable (despite the nice video on the website explaining why there were so many defaults). The new offering is very different though and worth a small % of your portfolio. I would probably recommend £5k in Z+ and £15k in Core for anyone investing the full amount into the ISA. As a footnote, I should add that I already have some 'Collections' in my ISA as I started it in June - the first default will come along soon, I'm sure - so it's still not for the faint-hearted.
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Post by benaj on Dec 15, 2017 10:55:43 GMT
I started Zopa plus at the end of March '17. At peak, the portfolio had over 1000+ loans and now only 15 loans in defaults. Most of the loans in defaults are D and one in are A1.
Given the way money being invested by Zopa Matching algorithm, I say a portfolio of 500+ loans is more likely to perform better than just 100+ loans to achieve 5%+ projected return.
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Post by susan on Dec 16, 2017 13:17:04 GMT
Hello,
I am leaving Zopa now the provision fund has stopped. Slowly taking my money out every week but not sure where to put it.
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Post by aju on Dec 16, 2017 15:34:43 GMT
Hello, I am leaving Zopa now the provision fund has stopped. Slowly taking my money out every week but not sure where to put it. Where are you planning to put it susan , I'm curious if there are better options. (Please no RS @ 6% when in fact its hard to get that unless you time it just right and I'm not sure its not that much in your control) I'm personally sticking with Zopa, for all its annoyances of late - as for me it's always better the devil you know etc. I remain confident that as long as diversification is <1%, we are both getting about 0.4% at the moment and relending is making it better and better after some stupid mistakes I made early on, then you should be safer than large sums lent all at once in the non SG world. The rate of SG pick up in the ISA side has tailed off a bit but it was very good for a while during the early days mind you lending at <£2000 a time was sometimes quite slow.
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Post by susan on Dec 17, 2017 10:45:11 GMT
Well, it was going to be with AC but they have announced that the GBBA account is closed, so I will have to think again.
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Post by ashtondav on Dec 17, 2017 11:14:12 GMT
Hello, I am leaving Zopa now the provision fund has stopped. Slowly taking my money out every week but not sure where to put it. Where are you planning to put it susan , I'm curious if there are better options. (Please no RS @ 6% when in fact its hard to get that unless you time it just right and I'm not sure its not that much in your control) I'm personally sticking with Zopa, for all its annoyances of late - as for me it's always better the devil you know etc. I remain confident that as long as diversification is <1%, we are both getting about 0.4% at the moment and relending is making it better and better after some stupid mistakes I made early on, then you should be safer than large sums lent all at once in the non SG world. The rate of SG pick up in the ISA side has tailed off a bit but it was very good for a while during the early days mind you lending at <£2000 a time was sometimes quite slow. I've got £42,000 in RS 5 year at 6% and £2,000 at 5.9% in RS 1 year, so it's not impossible. Right now we're in the middle of the slowest month of the year, but in January I would hope to pick up 6% in RS - with a PF. As I've said elsewhere my Zopa + is delivering the expected return, but I am withdrawing whenever 6% looks achievable on RS.
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Post by aju on Dec 17, 2017 12:28:41 GMT
Where are you planning to put it susan , I'm curious if there are better options. (Please no RS @ 6% when in fact its hard to get that unless you time it just right and I'm not sure its not that much in your control) I'm personally sticking with Zopa, for all its annoyances of late - as for me it's always better the devil you know etc. I remain confident that as long as diversification is <1%, we are both getting about 0.4% at the moment and relending is making it better and better after some stupid mistakes I made early on, then you should be safer than large sums lent all at once in the non SG world. The rate of SG pick up in the ISA side has tailed off a bit but it was very good for a while during the early days mind you lending at <£2000 a time was sometimes quite slow. I've got £42,000 in RS 5 year at 6% and £2,000 at 5.9% in RS 1 year, so it's not impossible. Right now we're in the middle of the slowest month of the year, but in January I would hope to pick up 6% in RS - with a PF. As I've said elsewhere my Zopa + is delivering the expected return, but I am withdrawing whenever 6% looks achievable on RS. I think we chatted about earlier either on this thread - I had been told then I could get better rates but I was surprised that it was a little more hit and miss than I was comfortable with. I think at the time I looked at RS it was fluctuating between 6% and just above 4%. Now I understand it a bit better I prefer to be lending with a lot of diversification these days unless it's in SG which is no more on Zopa. I thought at the time that RS lent much larger sums into any given loan. If I've got it wrong then I apologise but it seemed that I might get 6% and I might get 4% but the only thing that seemed predictable was that as much lending that was needed for given loan would be applied from my investment. Whilst I don't mind that if the PF holds up but for me it felt a bit too much like I was betting my shirt rather than my socks and if the PF fund failed I'd be far more exposed than the small loans I try to get in Zopa outside the SG. I do get it though that the more experienced RSer can probably get the rates they want but I could not see it was anymore than a punt on the lending queue positions. Perhaps when things die down on Zopa, for me anyway, I'll break off £100 to get a feel for it. Mind you if it really is based on HMRC bad debt changes then surely RS PF will be on the way out too perhaps.
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Post by benaj on Dec 17, 2017 16:55:58 GMT
Well, it was going to be with AC but they have announced that the GBBA account is closed, so I will have to think again. If you are after liquidity, please take time to consider carefully. Look for real evidence that not coming from the p2p platform
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Post by james21 on Dec 17, 2017 19:27:33 GMT
I escaped from zopa nil loss; would never go back
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Post by aju on Dec 17, 2017 19:34:43 GMT
I escaped from zopa nil loss; would never go back Any particular reason other than rates not up to your liking.
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