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Post by j on Jul 31, 2014 12:34:36 GMT
£818k, 9.75% over 36 months, 69% ltv
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Sept 30, 2014 16:09:54 GMT
NLCP loan is now on the AM.
But be quick as there's a penny discount on each £100unit from one u/wer.
I shadow bidded so can't benefit.
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Post by baz657 on Sept 30, 2014 16:28:51 GMT
WooHoo!!!
I've just saved 5p!
......and no downtime.
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Post by j on Sept 30, 2014 17:10:31 GMT
NLCP loan is now on the AM. But be quick as there's a penny discount on each £100unit from one u/wer. I shadow bidded so can't benefit. There's tons (pardon the pun Ton ⓉⓞⓃ) units available at 1p discount. I won't be in any rush to add now till I fully re-read the paperwork as I sat out the live loan & have forgotten what it was about (sign of getting on)
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Post by unmadem on Sept 30, 2014 17:24:12 GMT
£818k, 9.75% over 36 months, 69% ltv I hadn't noticed that some things had changed since start of process.
Now £840k, 11% over 36 months 73.6% ltv
info is in a drawdown update.
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Post by kermie on Sept 30, 2014 18:26:04 GMT
£818k, 9.75% over 36 months, 69% ltv I hadn't noticed that some things had changed since start of process.
Now £840k, 11% over 36 months 73.6% ltv
info is in a drawdown update.
Indeed - and note, chris, that the new LTV is not accurately reflected in all places (e.g., on the Investments page is still says 70.84%)
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Post by mikes1531 on Sept 30, 2014 21:37:49 GMT
NLCP loan is now on the AM. But be quick as there's a penny discount on each £100unit from one u/wer. I shadow bidded so can't benefit. Ton ⓉⓞⓃ is a member of a very exclusive group -- 96% of this loan is still with the underwriters, so only 4% is funded by user bids. And there might have been even fewer user bids when the loan first appeared on the Aftermarket.
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Post by mikes1531 on Sept 30, 2014 22:10:18 GMT
I hadn't noticed that some things had changed since start of process.
Now £840k, 11% over 36 months 73.6% ltv
info is in a drawdown update.
Indeed - and note, chris, that the new LTV is not accurately reflected in all places (e.g., on the Investments page is still says 70.84%) The security for this loan makes me nervous. The bulk of the 'equity' offered is from a second charge on the borrower's very highly valued residence. The first charge is for 64% of the valuation. I'm in another AC loan that's overdue, secured by an expensive residence. Because that property needed to be sold in order to repay the loan, and apparently wasn't generating much interest from potential buyers, the offering price has been reduced significantly -- by about 20%, IIRC. In that case, thankfully, the AC security is a first charge, so if the property sells at the lower price it will be the borrower who takes the pain rather than AC lenders. In the NLCP situation, if it were necessary to enforce the security, and a similar reduction in price were needed in order to attract a buyer in a reasonable time, the LTV of the first charge would jump from 64% to 80% -- and not leave a lot of scope for recovery for AC lenders as the second charge holders.
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Post by mike on Sept 30, 2014 23:24:04 GMT
There is also a first charge over a commercial property valued at £815K
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Sept 30, 2014 23:48:27 GMT
There is also a first charge over a commercial property valued at £815K That's the point to be honest, the loan is now £840k and the comm. property gives even less coverage so more there's now reliance on the 2nd charge, putting up the ltv. (2nd charges being a little more risky than 1st's)
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Post by bigfoot12 on Oct 1, 2014 7:42:50 GMT
Which is why the interest rate increased from 9.75% to 11%!
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Post by mikes1531 on Oct 1, 2014 13:27:40 GMT
Which is why the interest rate increased from 9.75% to 11%! I had forgotten about that change. I've just been back to the loan pages to see whether the interest rate change was noted there. It is, but I also see that the same update that said the rate had changed also said that the house valuation had come in at £3.7M, which was below the initial £3.9M estimate. Yet the £3.9M value still is shown on the Security tab, which means the security isn't as good as stated, and the real LTV is higher than that which is shown. I think andrewholgate needs to assign someone from AC to the job of updating the website pages for this loan so that investors can't claim they were misled by them.
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Post by andrewholgate on Oct 1, 2014 14:22:15 GMT
Which is why the interest rate increased from 9.75% to 11%! I had forgotten about that change. I've just been back to the loan pages to see whether the interest rate change was noted there. It is, but I also see that the same update that said the rate had changed also said that the house valuation had come in at £3.7M, which was below the initial £3.9M estimate. Yet the £3.9M value still is shown on the Security tab, which means the security isn't as good as stated, and the real LTV is higher than that which is shown. I think andrewholgate needs to assign someone from AC to the job of updating the website pages for this loan so that investors can't claim they were misled by them. OK. Will action now. <selects DM boots from cupboard....practices a few kicks> A
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Post by andrewholgate on Oct 1, 2014 14:45:23 GMT
<wipes boots, puts them away>
Should be sorted now.
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Post by mikes1531 on Oct 1, 2014 19:03:22 GMT
<wipes boots, puts them away> Should be sorted now. andrewholgate: Don't put the DM's too far away. The situation has improved, but the summary paragraph for the loan still shows the LTV to be 70%. And while the valuation of the residence was updated to reflect the info in Point 1 of Drawdown Update 3, the amount of the first charge on the residential property was not updated to reflect the info on the line below that (Point 2 of Drawdown Uptate 3). Must try harder! On a minor related point... I hope this is fixed in in new model, but I find the numbering of Drawdown Updates to be nonsensical. The most recent always is No. 1, and earlier ones have higher numbers. So they end up being renumbered every time a new update is added. For instance, the earliest update -- Update 3 at the moment -- would become Update 4 when a new update is added, rendering the references in the above paragraph incorrect.
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