merlin
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Post by merlin on Nov 22, 2013 23:01:52 GMT
Received by e-mail a customer satisfaction survey today. Short, sharp and to the point with only seven questions. Think it was organised by Polldaddy.com. Hope they don't just delete completed surveys containing negative comments as they seem to do on the Forum and the web site!
Anyone else had one of these?
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Post by mrclondon on Nov 22, 2013 23:12:20 GMT
Yes just done it. I like the in email format of it - more likely to attract responses than the standard "click here to start" surveys.
Probably prompted by the fact that loans are currently slow to fill (and rates on a number of loans are the highest they have been for many months).
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pikestaff
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Post by pikestaff on Nov 22, 2013 23:50:07 GMT
Yes, supply does seem to exceed demand at the moment. Interesting times, and rather surprising. I'm getting the same feel from Thin Cats too. What do you think is the reason?
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Post by mrclondon on Nov 23, 2013 0:42:13 GMT
It could be that whilst P2P/P2B is able to attract new lenders on an ongoing basis, most will initially be committing relatively small amounts of money, and within the comfort blanket of zopa/ratesetter provision funds. Many of us that started with P2P several years ago have graduated beyond the £10/£20 unsecured loans, and are now happy to put (much) larger chunks into secured loans. Interestingly Funding Secure (the P2P pawnbroker) may be the way the typical zopa/ratesetter lender gets introduced to the concept of secured lending and the comfort of larger contributions. And here I think Assetz have been clever by allowing £20 contributions to fund million pound plus loans as todays small lender may well be tomorrows' underwriter.
Sometimes inhabiting these forums we are apt to forget that throwing 4 or even 5 figure sums around as we tend to do on a routine basis is the preserve of a very small minority of the UK population. Given the number of very large loans on TC/Assetz recently its perhaps not that surprising that available funds are becoming stretched.
In FC's case there is probably another effect at play - the flippers may be realising that the game is simply not worth the effort with the increased number of loans FC are now pushing through.
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jimbo
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Post by jimbo on Nov 23, 2013 2:38:04 GMT
I agree with much of what you say mrcLondon, but I don't think the flippers have given up just yet. Bidding on the asset-backed loan of £160k was going mental before it closed. Whatever FC are using to queue bids is handling the load well, but it took a minute or two to catch up (and knock out £100 of my £20 bids at 10.6%) after it closed. Many people still seem keen to get the top rate. From the events of recent weeks, I get the feeling FC are being inundated by loan requests at the present time, and my guess is the platform does not have the liquidity to fully fund more than around £4 million of loans within 24 hours in a single week. A number of the newer loans required are also in excess of £100k, so I guess that a combination of total weekly loan amounts and autobid limits are kicking in and resulting in the larger loans not being filled in the first 24 hours. Speaking for myself, this is a gift, and I'm actually enjoying my use of FC once again.
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oldgrumpy
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Post by oldgrumpy on Nov 23, 2013 8:57:16 GMT
jimbo ..... I also lost all my 10.6% well after closing time The system was manic in the last few minutes - brilliant really. I did the survey. Basically gave them 7/10s for their "rating". Told them we must have an underwriter's summary report of how they come to their conclusions on risk band especially when it seems to contradict credit records and financial figures shown. Assetz give us one. That might prevent some of the direct Q & A texts being written, answered then moderated (deleted) so often. edit: Yes, there are a lot of big loans listed all of a sudden and following this week's performance I wonder how many will still not be fully funded 24 hours before the end of the auctions next week. I can't really understand why FC are even contemplating D risk band loans* of £150,000 with no asset security. * I don't accept this nonsense of C- .... if it isn't a C it is a D .... potentially Dodgy!!! (having said that there have been a few where I wondered why they were so low as C-)
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agent69
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Post by agent69 on Nov 23, 2013 9:47:24 GMT
Speaking for myself, this is a gift, and I'm actually enjoying my use of FC once again.
I pulled half my money out of FC about a 6 weeks ago. Having seen the improving rates I have been having a bit of a dabble again over the last week.
I had a bit of the £160k loan, but like many I partly lost out in the mad rush. Still managed some at 10.5% and 10.4%, Will probably pick up a bit more on the secondary market if the rate is right.
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spyrogyra
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Post by spyrogyra on Nov 23, 2013 9:53:58 GMT
Well, though with no evidence I will voice my suspicion on what might be behind the slow filling of the loans lately - it might be a temporary trend which could serve well in favour of a new big investor (or investors) who will be flipping appealing loan slices at juicy premiums for months after the bananza is over. Nevertheless, all the rest courageous investors won't miss the chance to refresh their portfolios.
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blender
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Post by blender on Nov 23, 2013 11:02:56 GMT
Hi FCers. There are a number of factors which may explain the recent (welcome) increase in rates. Those down to FC look like the reduction in HMG percentage plus the increase in volume of loan offers, and given that FC know how much money is in bids and available funds it does seem that they are expecting to push up rates. Yes this may be in anticipation of additional sources of funding soon, and so I am also selling the old loans which have less liquidity and buying new while I can. Other factors seem to be the end of the C- grabbing, the stretching of autobid money so that now there is a chance of a decent rate at £100k (it may be that autobid 'savers' need the cash for Xmas), and also fewer and more selective flippers. This may all change in the new year, or even earlier. Yes I did the survey. I liked the question about whether FC was biassed in favour of borrowers. Obviously, the borrowers are the customers and we lenders are just a source of funds.
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 23, 2013 12:56:05 GMT
Perhaps I shoujld feel offended: I didn't get their survey :-(
Also forgot about the £160k: I imagine all my earlier bids got knocked out.
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