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Post by nyneil on Mar 23, 2018 16:19:59 GMT
I see some updates are starting to come through:
3 hours ago : 8649372971 The borrower's solicitor has advised that the pending sale has not as yet progressed. ... More on the FS website
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Post by adrian77 on Mar 24, 2018 14:36:26 GMT
this one was due to complete on 09/02/18 - well it just may possibly be another one running late where this refinancing does not actually materialise as planned....
I read that some forumite estimated the FS overdue loans at £26m - Wimbledon, Knaresborough , Whitehaven and South Wales seem to on track to lose over £2million alone. If we take the £26m and 25% loans go bad and they lose 25% then that is over £1.5m loss to be born by we lenders. If we take 50% and they lose 50% then that is £6.5m - if you take the average that is £4m loss... just a thought
Am I still investing in FS property - answers on a digitial postcard
Personally I think the P2P market is heading for a fall - more and more entrants means companies can either reduce their loan books or decrease the loan quality and I really don't think the FS loan book quality is increasing but what do I know...
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Post by beepbeepimajeep on Mar 26, 2018 12:05:35 GMT
A guide to borrowing via Funding Secure, by beepbeepimajeep.
1) Ask for a ridiculously large amount of money on your property/asset, well in excess of the price it would actually achieve in a forced sale. Around £800k on something worth probably £100k is the ball park to aim at. Whatever you do make sure 70% LTV ratio is highlighted strongly on the loan advert.
2) Set your repayment date to be 6 months or a year. Promise that you will have completed the build/acheived planning permission/got refinancing/completed promotional activities and have sponsorship by this time. Don't worry, whatever time you set has no bearing on when you actually have to pay up.
3) Collect the money after being pimped at the top of the "available loans" list for a few days. If the internet reveals you as a risky prospect you might have to wait a little bit to get filled - but don't fear you will. In extreme cases you will have to take a 1% hit offering cashback or FS will have to make no other loans available, but it will get done. If they can get the endurance boat over the line for £938,000 then truly miracles do happen on this website.
4) Do the minimum required to keep up appearances, probably nothing. Let the repayment date pass for months before making any contact. Nobody will care. When you finally do speak to FS give vague promises to renew. You could always renew but there is no real need and it will detract from point 6. Either way you can at minimum double your initial time frame for starters doing that. Hey there are loans that were due to end in 2016 where everything is OK in FS land because "progress is being made towards refinancing"
5) Give occasional, but very promising sounding, updates. Always claim the money will be there "next week" or "next month" but you don't ever have to actually come up with the money - just go quiet/blame someone else/claim legal holdups. You can get at minimum a year out of "next week"'s. Eventually just stop giving the next week update and instead give a "start of a long journey" update. Rinse repeat for as long as you can be bothered.
6) Profit
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Post by adrian77 on Mar 26, 2018 15:06:39 GMT
I don't wish to be critical but I really don't agree with the prior 6 points about how to get an FC loan - the logic has a major weakness and omission which is as follows:
7) laugh all the way to the bank!
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Post by brightspark on Mar 26, 2018 20:31:51 GMT
FS have very few staff and an ever increasing list of late payers and problem loans I worry that they don't have the staff to keep on top of then and I worry even more they have not got the readies to deal with the legal work etc with the defaulted loans. To their credit FC got out of property when they realised it wasn't the cash cow they thought it was (tell me about it) but FS will have millions invested in what look like very problematical loans to me e.g. Suffolk Sn*w dome, South Wales Hotel , etc etc As of today I am stoppping investing in most FS property loans and all boats, wind turbines and hotels... About time too!
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Post by mariner on Mar 29, 2018 10:22:31 GMT
Yet another one
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Last update
10/02/2018
We have soken with the borrower again this week and have been assured that interest will be received within the next 2 weeks
Obviously soken doesn’t work, try speaking to them FS
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Post by mariner on Mar 29, 2018 10:38:54 GMT
Yet another one 1133835215Last update 10/02/2018We have soken with the borrower again this week and have been assured that interest will be received within the next 2 weeks Obviously soken doesn’t work, try speaking to them FS ***** Update: Now been repaid *****Speaking works wonders
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Post by mariner on Mar 31, 2018 16:59:52 GMT
By my calcs 25% of the loan book as of today overdue!!! - over £26,000,000 of our money That is worrying Latest....think I am right 36% of the loan book value as of today, overdue!!! - over £29,000,000 of our money,just gets worse 145 loans over the 180 day mark 29.59% of total loans active or unredeemed Next update 14th April, just to see how they are getting on
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Post by bg on Mar 31, 2018 18:02:58 GMT
By my calcs 25% of the loan book as of today overdue!!! - over £26,000,000 of our money That is worrying Latest....think I am right 36% of the loan book value as of today, overdue!!! - over £29,000,000 of our money,just gets worse 145 loans over the 180 day mark 29.59% of total loans active or unredeemed Next update 14th April, just to see how they are getting on Where do you get this data from? I see 22 loans over the 180 day mark and many of those are just various tranches of the same loan (eg Business Centre in Liverpool, Formby Development). I see it as around 15 distinct loans that are over 180 days late, not 145. £5m in value terms. In fact I only see 92 loans that are overdue out of 444 active loans, again many of these are just the various tranches of the same loan. That is £20m in value terms.
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Post by mariner on Apr 1, 2018 8:55:17 GMT
As I said, I may be wrong, data is taken from All Active & Past Loans, but quite happy to be corrected 2005 entries in total 1489 completed 26 cancelled 46 defaulted for a total of £5,816,362.8 444 active (agreed, multiple tranches but a tranche is a loan is it not?) Of the 444 active, 100 late (i.e. due on or before 31/03/2018) for a total of £23,500.549.96
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Post by bg on Apr 1, 2018 9:25:00 GMT
As I said, I may be wrong, data is taken from All Active & Past Loans, but quite happy to be corrected 2005 entries in total 1489 completed 26 cancelled 46 defaulted for a total of £5,816,362.8 444 active (agreed, multiple tranches but a tranche is a loan is it not?) Of the 444 active, 100 late (i.e. due on or before 31/03/2018) for a total of £23,500.549.96 OK, 100 late loans is a little closer to the 92 that I see (from the same source). Not sure how that equates to 145 loans over 180 days late though!
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Post by mariner on Apr 1, 2018 12:35:26 GMT
100 loans which are active i.e. not defaulted, over 180 days old
45 Defaulted which are over 180 days + 1 defaulted which is not due till 28/04/2018
So 100 + 45 = 145 total loans over 180 days
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Post by Imothep on Apr 1, 2018 15:13:40 GMT
I could be wrong but don't FS get their fees on loan repayment? no , they take them on drawdown ...
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Post by michaelc on Apr 1, 2018 16:02:01 GMT
I could be wrong but don't FS get their fees on loan repayment? no , they take them on drawdown ... Are you sure? Where did you see that? I read this from their terms: 5.4 All Loans including accrued interest and fees must be repaid in full at the end of the Loan Term (subject to the possibility for Loan renewals set out in clause 6.5).
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Post by Imothep on Apr 1, 2018 20:40:08 GMT
yep, i’m sure, interest is due at end of term with repayment of capital, pretty standard ....fee. paid on each tranche drawdown , s’all about cashflow, the platforms need to survive as well
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