adrian77
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Post by adrian77 on May 14, 2018 11:15:02 GMT
when I see loans such as the world famous turbine loan which lost a staggering £695,429.98 the answer is yes!
i.e this one loan lost over 600 times the combined total of these 2 recovered loans!
If the turbine was a 100% recovery and these 2 loans were a 35% loss I could live with that
As I have said before I am convinced there are going to be a lot more mega property loan failures before FS see the light of day. It looks to me as if FS may have been a bit "unlucky" with the SW17 default but no excuse whatsoever for many of the other loans not least Wimbledon. My money is on the Snow Dome being the next total horlicks...
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Post by shuff27 on May 14, 2018 13:41:05 GMT
Don't worry, 2119926755 (N********e) is going to repay this week - well, at least according to the last update on 26 March
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Post by adrian77 on May 14, 2018 15:43:47 GMT
True - I am not too bothered about this one as I invested but did not renew. At least FS defaulted this one and hopefully the receivers will bring in a 100% recovery - only possible snag is that there is a let-out clause and the sale does not complete which hopefully is unlikely. I hope for FS's sake (and lenders) they do bring in a 100% recovery as it will go a small way in improving lender confidence.
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Post by spyrogyra on May 15, 2018 16:26:25 GMT
I wished I could see this thread buried but here we go again - 3934175822 Mixed Use C**e**r* almost 2 months without an update.
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Post by spyrogyra on May 23, 2018 16:32:49 GMT
Wille.ha.l 6773087634 the update from 4/5 :
We have been in contact with the borrower's solicitor who has requested a redemption statement as of May 16.
FS, do you have a diary? If not, I'll buy you one. So as you would check whose and what promises needs acting upon. ... And then update lenders.
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Post by mariner on May 26, 2018 9:05:38 GMT
Latest Update
2133 entries in total
1587 completed
27 cancelled
45 defaulted for a total of £5,481,753.88
474 active
Of the 474 active
116 late (i.e. due on or before 26/05/2018) for a total of £31,445,949.96
So, almost £37,000,000 of our money defaulted or overdue!!............& substantially rising week on week
Incompetence or what?
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Post by scores on May 29, 2018 14:26:20 GMT
2688914082 Loan Amount £575,000 Due to be repaid 27/04/18. No updates as of now.
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Monetus
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Post by Monetus on May 29, 2018 17:24:48 GMT
Are fundingsecure just totally out of their depth these days or what is going on? Why have they suddenly become so bad at updating loans over the past few months when it used to be like clockwork weekly? It's amazing how much % of the loan book is overdue now and also how many loans are overdue and haven't received any update at all. They are seriously taking us investors for granted and seem to have adopted a total blasé attitude to keeping us informed. This will most certainly be their downfall. They seem to be finding the time to add new loans to the platform - surprise surprise. Emails take a week to get any response. Whenever I ask for an update for a loan on Live Chat I always get told that the person I need to speak to is "out of the office" or "unavailable this week". Where is the customer service and who is managing the loan book? What on earth is going on over there?
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mariner
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Post by mariner on May 29, 2018 19:48:07 GMT
In short ...nothing
They are totally out of their depth, have not a clue what is happening with defaulted & overdue loans, do not have the staff needed to run such an operation
Have lost huge amounts of investors money, which will continue to rise, they are incapable of stemming the tide
I fear the worst
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Post by aj on May 30, 2018 6:30:40 GMT
Phase 1 and 2 of the D*ll B*rkenhead are now over a month overdue with no update. Strangely, Ch**ter House 1st charge with the same borrower gets an update only 9 days overdue...
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Post by Steerpike on May 30, 2018 15:39:11 GMT
For the wise or lucky ones that sell all their FS loans on to unsuspecting mugs before term everything is fine, but for those left holding beyond 150 days there is little that they can do but wring their hands and wail as for some loans there is no meaningful communication from or reliable evidence of action by FS. When 180 day loans extend to over 800 days and the latest update is almost identical to that posted 600 days ago even getting acknowledgement via chat that your voice has been heard feels like you have at least tried. Many loans on many platforms run significantly late and the issue then becomes simply "do you trust the platform to take appropriate and effective action" and the consensus for many here seems to be growing that with FS no you can't. However, the monthly statistics posted by FS seem to demonstrate that they continue to deliver good returns for investors with an estimated net return of 11.2% It is difficult to project returns but based on 2.6 years, assuming return of all capital and no accrued interest I see XIRR of about 8%, return of all capital and accrued interest about 12%, 100% loss on unredeemed loans and no accrued interest about 6%, 100% loss on unredeemed and no accrued interest and 20% loss on the remainder about 1%. So in my case even a pessimistic view sees returns similar to leaving funds in the bank, but unfortunately a good deal more distressing if one follows the FS updates and associated commentary. So perhaps the best approach is to ignore the updates and live chat and simply wait for the email that says "One of your investments has been completed and closed" and consider very carefully before investing again.
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Post by bugs4me on May 30, 2018 19:36:22 GMT
<snip> So perhaps the best approach is to ignore the updates and live chat and simply wait for the email that says "One of your investments has been completed and closed" and consider very carefully before investing again. I think your approach is probably the best one to preserve one's health. The numerous posts about this that and the other are frankly a waste of time IMO. Okay, maybe venting off now and again may help but there are so many examples where FS continuously demonstrate they have lost interest I ask myself what is the point.
Repayment by the borrower is optional or so it appears. When they repay is also an option. Loan management is below poor IMO at FS. So reading posts expecting something realistic from FS - those days are over, assuming they ever existed in the first place. Reading updates, another sad joke point.
Mentally, I've written off 50% of my final loan which will result in a c7% return since I first got involved. Whenever a loan becomes overdue then investors are at the mercy of the borrowers. It really is that simple.
Maybe FS were better in their earlier days. Their dash for growth has resulted in high blood pressure for many an investor now locked into overdue loans.
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Post by df on May 30, 2018 19:43:35 GMT
<snip> So perhaps the best approach is to ignore the updates and live chat and simply wait for the email that says "One of your investments has been completed and closed" and consider very carefully before investing again. I think your approach is probably the best one to preserve one's health. The numerous posts about this that and the other are frankly a waste of time IMO. Okay, maybe venting off now and again may help but there are so many examples where FS continuously demonstrate they have lost interest I ask myself what is the point.
Repayment by the borrower is optional or so it appears. When they repay is also an option. Loan management is below poor IMO at FS. So reading posts expecting something realistic from FS - those days are over assuming they ever existed in the first place. Reading updates, another sad joke point.
Mentally, I've written off 50% of my final loan which will result in a c7% return since I first got involved. Whenever a loan becomes overdue then investors are at the mercy of the borrowers. It really is that simple.
Maybe FS were better in their earlier days. Their dash for growth has resulted in high blood pressure for many an investor now locked into overdue loans.
That's a standard pawn strategy and works well for that type of asset. No good when applied to property loans.
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Post by bugs4me on May 30, 2018 21:35:22 GMT
Maybe staying OT but then I'll shut up. There's a relatively new platform that 'boasts' on their website about the depth of experience the team have in the P2P industry. From that one can assume it must be a number of years - so I enquired via this forum if they would care to expand on that particular aspect. Total radio silence although they were enthusiastic about responding to other questions which were worded to promote the platform. Fair enough but my question remained unanswered.
So I sent an e-mail and received a standard response - it would be dealt with within a couple of days - again, radio silence.
I would be interested in the experience of the FS team. Whether it's loan application DD, loan presentation, loan monitoring (where applicable), debt recovery, etc. No doubt in my mind as mentioned by df - it stops at anything more than straightforward pawn. Think that hits that nail on the head.
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Post by spyrogyra on Jun 6, 2018 10:22:29 GMT
6773087634 Wil.e.ha.l
The last update is over a month old 04/05/2018
We have been in contact with the borrower's solicitor who has requested a redemption statement as of May 16.
Every time I notice such negligent attitude to my money, I withdraw 500 from the platform. From today I will start withdrawing what's possible to withdraw. FS is not taking seriously lenders' feedback and failed to employ enough staff to deal with the ever-increasing lates and defaults. I doubt they lack the resources to employ more staff. Then why? The only logical answer is so that more money is saved for the remuneration of the owners at the end of the year. Prove me wrong.
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