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Apr 26, 2018 6:44:30 GMT
Post by crabbyoldgit on Apr 26, 2018 6:44:30 GMT
Good news ,709 has drawn down and bits are being sold out to the mlia. I have bid for £100 and so far got 0.00000000000000000152 pence am I in your opinions over exposed in this loan should it default. How many votes will i get in any vote. . Don't you just love it.
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Apr 26, 2018 7:16:08 GMT
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Post by danielbird193 on Apr 26, 2018 7:16:08 GMT
Just checked and I have so far got a total of £1.08 spread across my QAA and 30 day accounts. Seems I have been lucky!
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cb25
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Apr 26, 2018 7:42:57 GMT
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Post by cb25 on Apr 26, 2018 7:42:57 GMT
I bid £100, got £100
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Apr 26, 2018 8:37:30 GMT
Post by benaj on Apr 26, 2018 8:37:30 GMT
I am not too sure how MILA bidding works, but there's £163k available now. May be give AC a ring to find out what happened. I got what I bid.
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Apr 26, 2018 9:12:23 GMT
Post by puddleduck on Apr 26, 2018 9:12:23 GMT
I got my full bid, and there seems to be over 160k available on the SM, presumably from the underwriter.
So something seems to have gone wrong in your case!
I am not 100% sure manual investing fully works correctly, I have positions on a number of loans, and while SM availability shows on several loans, the system never seems to actually get round to making the buy (either that or its very slow..)
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Apr 26, 2018 9:31:07 GMT
Post by chris on Apr 26, 2018 9:31:07 GMT
Good news ,709 has drawn down and bits are being sold out to the mlia. I have bid for £100 and so far got 0.00000000000000000152 pence am I in your opinions over exposed in this loan should it default. How many votes will i get in any vote. . Don't you just love it. There was a second round of sales earlier today and it appears you have your £100 now.
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Apr 26, 2018 9:33:42 GMT
Post by cb25 on Apr 26, 2018 9:33:42 GMT
Good news ,709 has drawn down and bits are being sold out to the mlia. I have bid for £100 and so far got 0.00000000000000000152 pence am I in your opinions over exposed in this loan should it default. How many votes will i get in any vote. . Don't you just love it. There was a second round of sales earlier today and it appears you have your £100 now. chris Clearly the GBBA and other packaged accounts haven't taken up the £163K. Can you give us some indication of how the take-up of new loans works across the MLA/packaged accounts ? e.g. does the system allocate each a percentage, and/or let one type go first, ... ?
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Post by chris on Apr 26, 2018 9:55:20 GMT
There was a second round of sales earlier today and it appears you have your £100 now. chris Clearly the GBBA and other packaged accounts haven't taken up the £163K. Can you give us some indication of how the take-up of new loans works across the MLA/packaged accounts ? e.g. does the system allocate each a percentage, and/or let one type go first, ... ? All buyers are compiled into a list and all sellers are compiled into a list, ordered smallest first, and then matched making sure that whatever one person gets everyone else should get at least the same. MLA, GBBA, etc. all added into those same lists and treated with equal priority. The next release will change that slightly so that lenders are given equal allocations rather than accounts, so someone investing via the MLA would get the same allocation as someone investing via MLA and GBBA (currently the person investing via two accounts would get twice the allocation).
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Apr 26, 2018 10:35:06 GMT
Post by loadsahope on Apr 26, 2018 10:35:06 GMT
I got what I bid for. That has usually happened when I have bid on a new loan.
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Apr 26, 2018 11:02:07 GMT
Post by n on Apr 26, 2018 11:02:07 GMT
Hopefully the wheels are still turning - I bid £300 and have £0 so far except £10 in QAA
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Post by puddleduck on Apr 26, 2018 12:06:13 GMT
The next release will change that slightly so that lenders are given equal allocations rather than accounts, so someone investing via the MLA would get the same allocation as someone investing via MLA and GBBA (currently the person investing via two accounts would get twice the allocation). Hello Chris Too be honest with you that sounds like a rather negative change to me for lenders. Lending in MLA is a positive decision by a lender, whereas in the other accounts it happens under the hood. To give an example, lets say I invest £1k in a loan in MLA. I also typically invest 4 figures in the auto accounts too per month. Are you saying that my conscious decision to invest in MLA, would mean the auto accounts would no longer invest? To my mind, that negatively impacts the value of the auto accounts and doesn't allow for risk spreading between manual and provision fund protected accounts. Have I mis-understood?
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Apr 26, 2018 13:45:23 GMT
Post by dc848 on Apr 26, 2018 13:45:23 GMT
I cant understand it. I didnt whinge, whine, complain or moan before during or after, yet I got the allocation I wanted. Go figure.
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Apr 26, 2018 13:55:05 GMT
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Post by chris on Apr 26, 2018 13:55:05 GMT
puddleduck - I think you're misunderstanding. The investment accounts ignore your MLA as they have no idea how to interpret what your intention is. They look after themselves in isolation and your MLA operates solely on your buy / sell instructions. If a new loan is launched and your GBBA decides to invest £100 and you place a £100 buy order in the MLA then the system will process each individually. So if the maximum allocation per lender account is £90 then in that scenario you would end up with £90 in your GBBA and £90 in your MLA due to investing via two accounts, conceivably ending up with £180 vs £90 for someone investing only via the MLA. That's not very fair and would cause issues with some features we're looking to add later in the year such as bespoke investment accounts where you could create multiple copies of an account to game the system. So we'll be switching to a strict per lender account allocation with the next update to the marketplace. In the above scenario where each lender is allocated £90 if you invested only via the MLA you would get £90, whereas if the GBBA wanted to invest as well (and it will continue to ignore any MLA instructions) then you would get £45 in the GBBA and £45 in the MLA. That is fairer for all lenders and prevents the gaming of the system in that way.
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Apr 26, 2018 14:59:54 GMT
Post by cb25 on Apr 26, 2018 14:59:54 GMT
In the above scenario where each lender is allocated £90 if you invested only via the MLA you would get £90, whereas if the GBBA wanted to invest as well (and it will continue to ignore any MLA instructions) then you would get £45 in the GBBA and £45 in the MLA. That is fairer for all lenders and prevents the gaming of the system in that way. Continuing with that scenario chris, assume there was no instruction for the loan in the MLA when the GBBA purchased £90 of the loan. If a request was made later to buy (say) £200 via the MLA, would the system -simply ignore the MLA request as the lender had their fair share, i.e. £90 of the loan, or -fulfill the MLA anywhere up to £90, but sell off £1 of the GBBA allocation for each £1 allocated in the MLA (to keep £90 total), or -something else ?
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Post by chris on Apr 26, 2018 15:46:48 GMT
In the above scenario where each lender is allocated £90 if you invested only via the MLA you would get £90, whereas if the GBBA wanted to invest as well (and it will continue to ignore any MLA instructions) then you would get £45 in the GBBA and £45 in the MLA. That is fairer for all lenders and prevents the gaming of the system in that way. Continuing with that scenario chris , assume there was no instruction for the loan in the MLA when the GBBA purchased £90 of the loan. If a request was made later to buy (say) £200 via the MLA, would the system -simply ignore the MLA request as the lender had their fair share, i.e. £90 of the loan, or -fulfill the MLA anywhere up to £90, but sell off £1 of the GBBA allocation for each £1 allocated in the MLA (to keep £90 total), or -something else ? Same as currently happens - there's no consideration to current holdings, only what people are trying to buy and sell in that current iteration of trades. So if lender a has £100 invested already, lender b has £0 invested, both lenders want to buy £100, and another lender then agrees to sell £50 - both lender a and lender b would be allocated £25 each.
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