bugs4me
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Post by bugs4me on May 3, 2018 8:52:45 GMT
I suppose sooner or later due to the professional inertia of FS this would happen. This has now become the forgotten loan.
The original loan - 420k based on a LTV of 60% was followed by a second loan for 100k.
You need to read the updates which are a demonstration how FS find it far more convenient to accept borrower repetitive assurances. Make sure you have time on your hands as it is long-winded but a couple of extracts -
Update - 06/02/2016 - Borrower has confirmed intention to renew the loan - funds awaited.
Update - 12/02/2016 - Funds expected by early next week latest.
And so it goes on.
Further Update - 10/06/2016 - ’...As the property has recently been revalued at £1.1m we remain confident of the security...’ - although there was no documentary evidence provided to back up the revised valuation. But it kept the herd investors quiet.
From the original valuation report this Grade 2 listed property had water ingress which can only accelerate the deterioration and the value undoubtedly reduces by the day. That reduced value has no financial impact on FS. Their reputation may suffer but IMO they have lost interest in protecting any form of reputation.
The first tranche investors will be taking a haircut and the second tranche will be wiped out.
This loan is an excellent example regarding the incompetence of FS at protecting investors funds. Loans are repaid but my firm impression is that’s not due to any skill on the part of FS but more of borrowers keeping to their commitments. Eventually investors simply run out of things to say - K**********h, W*******n, to name just a couple and find themselves going round and round in circles with zero constructive progress reports from the platform.
This FS fiasco will continue whilst everything they offer for funding is filled (eventually) as there’s no incentive for them to change.
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Monetus
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Post by Monetus on May 3, 2018 8:55:49 GMT
Unbelievable. The 995 day property loan!
I agree that nothing will change with FS until they start having issues filling loans.
"Fiasco" is the word!
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jj
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Post by jj on May 3, 2018 9:19:08 GMT
Not in the loan but has anyone ever considered writing to the FCA ? This situation hardly seems fair.
Perhaps someone has written to them regarding other loans. I would be interested in their response.
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bugs4me
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Post by bugs4me on May 3, 2018 9:26:03 GMT
Not in the loan but has anyone ever considered writing to the FCA ? This situation hardly seems fair. Perhaps someone has written to them regarding other loans. I would be interested in their response. I do not believe 'fair' or 'fairness' to investors exists in the FS dictionary/vocabulary.
Investors are often treated as a necessary inconvenience. You only need to read the posts on this forum with promised updates failing to materialise.
It's only when investors become 'organised' and present the facts to the media will it all come out. By doing so however we may be shooting ourselves in the foot. I have no wish to see any platform fail especially one where I have funds invested. The FCA - as useful as a chocolate teapot. Look at COL - they read about it first AFAIK by visiting this forum.
What it all boils down to in my book is that it's not FS own money that's at risk. Now if it was then.......
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adrian77
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Post by adrian77 on May 3, 2018 11:06:35 GMT
Granted a total horlicks all round but at least FS eventually defaulted the loan Current asking guide is £350K which seems fair enough but what are dealers in distressed property going to offer - I guess £300K tops and more likely £250K . So after admin charges etc I can see ,at best, 250K out of 420 being recovered viz 60% - as quoted above that is what I call a haircut and more of a skinhead than a trim! As to the lower ranking loan I also can't foresee anything other than 0% being recovered.
Wimbledon looks like a 100% loss, Knaresborough looks like a 100% loss and the second charge here will be a 100% loss
Granted I have made some very bad decisions in my property dealings but it was my money - to lose 100% on a property loan takes a real talent in my opinion.
Gordon Bennet !!!
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