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Post by elephantrosie on Oct 16, 2018 23:31:49 GMT
Hi all, has anyone had experience of updating addresses with the new administrator?
I have emailed them but did not receive any reploes.
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btc
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Post by btc on Oct 17, 2018 23:25:58 GMT
You need to pay BDO more if you want them to do anything. They don't respond to the investor email, and they are not happy if you phone them.
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Post by min on Oct 18, 2018 8:00:58 GMT
Hi all, has anyone had experience of updating addresses with the new administrator? I have emailed them but did not receive any reploes. I sent them an email telling them I've changed my email address. Also no reply. Very unprofessional.
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Post by applets on Oct 18, 2018 8:14:23 GMT
I have tried three times to change my email address. Each time they have confirmed that the change has been made, but still the emails are going to the old address which is about to be switched off.
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Post by elliotn on Oct 18, 2018 11:04:34 GMT
I have tried three times to change my email address. Each time they have confirmed that the change has been made, but still the emails are going to the old address which is about to be switched off. Might be worth keeping on (unless it was an ex-employer email?).
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min
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Post by min on Oct 18, 2018 16:40:13 GMT
I have tried three times to change my email address. Each time they have confirmed that the change has been made, but still the emails are going to the old address which is about to be switched off. Oh dear. My old email address is no longer available to me.
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Post by TitoPuente on Oct 18, 2018 19:50:33 GMT
It is advisable to use generic email providers such us Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo mail, etc. that can be kept for life with relative certainty. It is not wise to use email addresses provided by your ISP (BT, Sky, etc.) because the day you switch you lose it. It is a no-no to use one's employer address. One can get fired tomorrow (or the employer can end up like Carillion tomorrow).
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Post by michaelc on Oct 18, 2018 20:24:50 GMT
It is advisable to use generic email providers such us Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo mail, etc. that can be kept for life with relative certainty. It is not wise to use email addresses provided by your ISP (BT, Sky, etc.) because the day you switch you lose it. It is a no-no to use one's employer address. One can get fired tomorrow (or the employer can end up like Carillion tomorrow). "Generic" email providers like Google's gmail could cease or start charging even if that seems unlikely now. Perhaps safer is to get your own domain then you're guaranteed never to lose it (as long as you pay the fees).
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Post by jamesp on Oct 18, 2018 20:46:42 GMT
"Generic" email providers like Google's gmail could cease or start charging even if that seems unlikely now. Perhaps safer is to get your own domain then you're guaranteed never to lose it (as long as you pay the fees). Do you know of any instances where this has happened? I'm fairly sure that both Hotmail and Yahoo addresses from many years ago are still usable.
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Post by dh1 on Oct 18, 2018 21:27:28 GMT
In reality there are risks whichever email route you adopt. I suspect the lowest risks are very large free providers (eg) Gmail or Outlook.com (which I use); next lowest your own domain; next ISP provided email (because you're dependent on maintaining your broadband contract with them usually, etc); all the rest below those.
The main reason your own domain comes second is that it depends on various service providers who can disappear, etc and the cheaper end don't provide any service level guarantees or similar. You may also have to do some managing and configuration yourself. Pay a lot and you'll get something more akin the large free providers.
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Post by michaelc on Oct 18, 2018 22:34:00 GMT
In reality there are risks whichever email route you adopt. I suspect the lowest risks are very large free providers (eg) Gmail or Outlook.com (which I use); next lowest your own domain; next ISP provided email (because you're dependent on maintaining your broadband contract with them usually, etc); all the rest below those.
The main reason your own domain comes second is that it depends on various service providers who can disappear, etc and the cheaper end don't provide any service level guarantees or similar. You may also have to do some managing and configuration yourself. Pay a lot and you'll get something more akin the large free providers.
Domain names are managed by ICANN who delegate subdomains to other countries and organisations. e.g. Nominet in the UK manages the .uk subdomain. Thus every address ending in .uk ultimately is managed by them. The organisations that hold the records of dns entries (starting with ICANN down) are backed by governments and as such are a safer bet than any internet company including Google. The closest analogy I can think of is the UK land registry. If, for example, you or I go and purchase a new .co.uk domain for a few quid from an internet registrar (who may also happen to be a service provider and will definitely be smaller than the likes of Google) the record of ownership is lodged with Nominet. So if that registrar went out of business it would frankly be irrelevant to your domain ownership. Nominet would simply point your dns entry to a new nameserver or even its own. If only p2p businesses plans were that resilient. If Nominet went under, no .uk address would work and that includes .gov.uk and mil.uk - it would never be allowed to happen. (although p2pindependentforum.com would continue fine.... - .com is managed by US company Verisign but again regulated/backed by the US government) Unlike P2P, I know something about this and it does surprise me a little that people are happy to post stuff as facts that are simply not correct.
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Post by michaelc on Oct 18, 2018 22:40:52 GMT
"Generic" email providers like Google's gmail could cease or start charging even if that seems unlikely now. Perhaps safer is to get your own domain then you're guaranteed never to lose it (as long as you pay the fees). Do you know of any instances where this has happened? I'm fairly sure that both Hotmail and Yahoo addresses from many years ago are still usable. I'm no commercial expert but historically I think many companies have changed their price structure from free to paid. A very quick search revealed this - I assume sometime later they backtracked. www.theregister.co.uk/2002/03/21/yahoo_charges_for_email_services/I also know that gmail for small businesses used to be free but now is a paid for service. In any case, they are providing a service - they can charge whenever they want. Presumably there are good business reasons around advertising and big data analytics as to why they currently don't charge but as far as I know there would be nothing to prevent them doing so in the future. That isn't to say I think they will - I don't know. Edit: And apologies elephantrosie for hijacking your post!
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Post by pom on Oct 19, 2018 9:21:21 GMT
Do you know of any instances where this has happened? I'm fairly sure that both Hotmail and Yahoo addresses from many years ago are still usable. I guess it's the email version of "past performance is no indicator of future" but I've been using my yahoo.com address since 1995. They "offered" to move me over to yahoo.co.uk a while back (didn't exist when I signed up) but I declined. Causes some confusion when it's still in my maiden name, but whatevs
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Post by pom on Oct 19, 2018 9:32:08 GMT
If Nominet went under, no .uk address would work and that includes .gov.uk and mil.uk - it would never be allowed to happen. Never say never. All we can say for certain is that it's not worth worrying about because the circumstances required for it to ever happen would mean there's nothing we could do to mitigate against it anyway, and we'd have far bigger problems if it did.
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Post by dh1 on Oct 19, 2018 14:28:37 GMT
In reality there are risks whichever email route you adopt. I suspect the lowest risks are very large free providers (eg) Gmail or Outlook.com (which I use); next lowest your own domain; next ISP provided email (because you're dependent on maintaining your broadband contract with them usually, etc); all the rest below those.
The main reason your own domain comes second is that it depends on various service providers who can disappear, etc and the cheaper end don't provide any service level guarantees or similar. You may also have to do some managing and configuration yourself. Pay a lot and you'll get something more akin the large free providers.
Domain names are managed by ICANN who delegate subdomains to other countries and organisations. e.g. Nominet in the UK manages the .uk subdomain. Thus every address ending in .uk ultimately is managed by them. The organisations that hold the records of dns entries (starting with ICANN down) are backed by governments and as such are a safer bet than any internet company including Google. The closest analogy I can think of is the UK land registry. If, for example, you or I go and purchase a new .co.uk domain for a few quid from an internet registrar (who may also happen to be a service provider and will definitely be smaller than the likes of Google) the record of ownership is lodged with Nominet. So if that registrar went out of business it would frankly be irrelevant to your domain ownership. Nominet would simply point your dns entry to a new nameserver or even its own. If only p2p businesses plans were that resilient. If Nominet went under, no .uk address would work and that includes .gov.uk and mil.uk - it would never be allowed to happen. (although p2pindependentforum.com would continue fine.... - .com is managed by US company Verisign but again regulated/backed by the US government) Unlike P2P, I know something about this and it does surprise me a little that people are happy to post stuff as facts that are simply not correct. Thanks for the additional detail, michaelc which helps a fair bit. Just for the record, I am entirely comfortable with my wording as I too know something of the subject! .
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