zlb
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Post by zlb on Jan 23, 2019 12:46:21 GMT
I went in and out of PP. Had email offering Property Partner Opportunistic Fund. Does anyone have opinion on this?
Does anyone use their investment plans rather than self-select?
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Post by IFISAcava on Jan 23, 2019 12:52:23 GMT
I went in and out of PP. Had email offering Property Partner Opportunistic Fund. Does anyone have opinion on this? Does anyone use their investment plans rather than self-select? The opportunistic fund offers returns as capital gains rather than income which suits me at the moment. Other than this though entirely self select. I use Bricklane for the automated investment side.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 15:29:42 GMT
I don't entirely know where this offering falls compared to the existing ways of investing.
Can I buy properties that will be part of this fund manually as I currently do as properties are offered?
Does this relate to their investment plans income/balanced/growth as a 4th option or is this an entirely different entity?
I sometimes feel every time PP contact me with an opportunity it in no way relates to anything that's gone before ..... investment plans, opportunity funds, residential, student accomm, development, social, in conjunction with other parties etc etc
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Post by hazellend on Jan 23, 2019 15:40:07 GMT
My thoughts are I would rather wait and see the bargain properties they negotiate with their buying power
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IFISAcava
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Post by IFISAcava on Jan 23, 2019 17:16:39 GMT
My thoughts are I would rather wait and see the bargain properties they negotiate with their buying power fair enough - I guess the gamble is whether the fund will trade at a discount (most likely) or a premium (possible if it does well). it's also a shorter duration than individual properties.
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benaj
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Post by benaj on Jan 23, 2019 17:41:46 GMT
It’s not for me. There are many funds to choose on the LSE
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Post by bigfoot12 on Jan 24, 2019 19:56:51 GMT
My thoughts are I would rather wait and see the bargain properties they negotiate with their buying power fair enough - I guess the gamble is whether the fund will trade at a discount (most likely) or a premium (possible if it does well). it's also a shorter duration than individual properties. Fees look very high, about 10% of your investment plus 20% of the profit! If it trades at a premium will I be kicking myself that I didn't invest...I doubt it. If it is a success there will most likely be another very soon.
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Post by IFISAcava on Jan 24, 2019 20:06:40 GMT
fair enough - I guess the gamble is whether the fund will trade at a discount (most likely) or a premium (possible if it does well). it's also a shorter duration than individual properties. Fees look very high, about 10% of your investment plus 20% of the profit! If it trades at a premium will I be kicking myself that I didn't invest...I doubt it. If it is a success there will most likely be another very soon. I got in without the initial 2% fees, and the management fees didn't seem that bad compared to similar - and if they make a profit than 20% doesn't seem unreasonable either. Anyway, a small punt as part of diversification etc etc. If I had more time I'd look into some REITS within an ISA, ideally invested primarily overseas to a) avoid Brexit risk in UK and b) hedge against further falls in pound with Brexit. Anyone have any suggestions?
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Post by IFISAcava on Jan 24, 2019 20:07:34 GMT
It’s not for me. There are many funds to choose on the LSE Any suggestions?
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Post by macq on Jan 24, 2019 22:52:08 GMT
Fees look very high, about 10% of your investment plus 20% of the profit! If it trades at a premium will I be kicking myself that I didn't invest...I doubt it. If it is a success there will most likely be another very soon. I got in without the initial 2% fees, and the management fees didn't seem that bad compared to similar - and if they make a profit than 20% doesn't seem unreasonable either. Anyway, a small punt as part of diversification etc etc. If I had more time I'd look into some REITS within an ISA, ideally invested primarily overseas to a) avoid Brexit risk in UK and b) hedge against further falls in pound with Brexit. Anyone have any suggestions? Not suggestions as there is better info out there but Phoenix Spree Deutschland has had a good run the last few years and TR property has a high % in Europe but is invested more in companies then property there are so many REIT's now from commercial,student,health,big box etc that it has got overwhelming in some ways. Looking at global - a cheap passive fund could be worth looking at and may suffice or even while you check out active funds.The likes of the L&G Global Real Estate dividend index or iShares Global property securities index both at around 0.2% which invest in REIT's from many sectors but weighted to the USA and there is also the iShares Global REIT etf which is a bit dearer i think
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Post by IFISAcava on Jan 25, 2019 0:30:57 GMT
I got in without the initial 2% fees, and the management fees didn't seem that bad compared to similar - and if they make a profit than 20% doesn't seem unreasonable either. Anyway, a small punt as part of diversification etc etc. If I had more time I'd look into some REITS within an ISA, ideally invested primarily overseas to a) avoid Brexit risk in UK and b) hedge against further falls in pound with Brexit. Anyone have any suggestions? Not suggestions as there is better info out there but Phoenix Spree Deutschland has had a good run the last few years and TR property has a high % in Europe but is invested more in companies then property there are so many REIT's now from commercial,student,health,big box etc that it has got overwhelming in some ways. Looking at global - a cheap passive fund could be worth looking at and may suffice or even while you check out active funds.The likes of the L&G Global Real Estate dividend index or iShares Global property securities index both at around 0.2% which invest in REIT's from many sectors but weighted to the USA and there is also the iShares Global REIT etf which is a bit dearer i think Excellent pointers - I think passive low cost is my bias so L-G and iShares good starter points for my research. Thanks.
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Post by benaj on Jun 6, 2019 8:12:15 GMT
Anyone got update / feedback about this fund performance since launch?
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Post by pom on Jun 6, 2019 11:37:14 GMT
Target deployment was 3-6 months so it could be a while yet before we hear anything
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Post by sd2 on Jul 3, 2019 22:22:09 GMT
Definitely for me. I will probably wait the full 18 months to get the full return. Unless of course the secondary market is very good price. Nice return if they achieve it and they are clearly capable of doing so. Don't have much in PP but I haven't got much to begin with. Its 5 years to vote for sell or not. At least you can ride out any economic storms....hopefully. I have roughly a 5% dividend decent and a chance at capital growth.
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Post by carolus on Jul 25, 2019 15:29:35 GMT
Well, doesn't look like they've had much success deploying this. 70% of investor funds now returned undeployed.
At least it's a chunk of funds returned which I can pull out of the site. Not very impressive that it's cost me ~six months of 0 return on that though.
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