15 hours ago akagi said:
I was not looking for advice - more trying to collect views from members that have experience with p2p. I appreciate my circumstances will be different from everyone else's.
akagi my view may be a little different, to add to the collection (caveat emptor, of course).
I do my own kind of due diligence.
I do not lend on any loan that I do not understand and agree with.
I do not diversify just for diversification's sake.
I try to understand the borrower and their situation;
- Do I know them, or their business/property? (I like to lend locally, or to an area/business/people I know)
- What do they want to do with the money? Does it make sense? Have they done it before?
- If the loan is for property I check the history, area, local regulations, like for like sales & let value, etc
- Do they seem capable, diligent, honest?
- What sort of things could go wrong? Do they have a plan B?
- What have they got to lose if they default?
- Where would we stand if they default & get difficult?
- What is the security really worth, how well is it tied down, how hard will it be to liquidate if required?
And then, way down the list, I consider how the platform may handle issues.
When I first join a platform I do due diligence on it, including the people behind it (google is our friend).
If happy, I "dip a toe in" with a very small loan or two.
I watch for quite a while, read discussions on the platform and here, investigate anything that already went wrong, etc.
I test the secondary market, withdraw funds to make sure no issues, and generally get a feel for the platform - no hurry.
So if I have decided to invest further with a platform, I am already pretty happy with their procedures.
[I use a few platforms without secondary markets, for funds I am happy to park; 1 pure p2b, the others more equity.
These are, just for my own personal reasons, 5* platforms/loans/equity]
On the flipside, I had an unexpected cashflow issue a few years ago and, happily, was able to liquidate almost my
entire ReBS portfolio very quickly, selling all at a profit. Not an expectation, but a nice outcome.
Later I was able to re-invest back into my favourite ReBS loans and added an IFISA too. Alongside my SSAS pension account.
In over 6 years, so far I've had three very small defaults/losses that have, so far, not come good:
1. My first little ReBS loan, already long in default!, where I felt sorry for the poor farmer borrower (ReBS - still pursuing him)
- lesson learnt, don't trust blindly or out of sympathy, Personal Guarantee is not great security, as a guarantor can go broke (or sell up, take off, etc), rendering it worthless.
2. Plumber loan, did not meet my criteria, but was popular on these pages, & loans were scarce then (AC - recovered half, still pursuing bankrupt & guarantor)
- lesson learnt, don't be swayed by other's opinions, especially if it does not meet my criteria, don't worry if funds are idle (consider QAA instead)
3. A criminal fraud (possible forged signatures etc), small loan, accruing 68% interest now but doubt I will see it (AC - pending; may be expensive to defend)
- lesson learnt - don't be swayed (popular loan), security was contract invoices, not my, or this platform's, forte (& PGs...) and, well, fraud is possible
I loan funds I am prepared to, but do not want to, lose.
I am cautious, and don't *plan* to lose funds by diversifying wildly and loosely.
If I take a loan to pieces, but something does not add up, or even does not feel right, I don't lend.
So far I have had net double digit returns every year, for the past 6 years.
In summary - I think it is important that a platform, and every single loan you make, adds up and makes sense to you.
Don't jump in head first - sign up to a few, if you like them & their loans, lend a tiny amount and monitor.
I hope that helps a little.