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Post by blender on Mar 22, 2019 19:45:16 GMT
I just had the fun of knocking this over the £800k. As the email says, only £50k more needed, and it's going to get there one way or another. Better if we do not leave it to some underwriter to churn it through the SM. I'm not making any statement about the quality of the loan - other than being pleased about diversity - just promoting my own selfish interests here.
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Post by Ace on Mar 22, 2019 20:12:55 GMT
I just had the fun of knocking this over the £800k. As the email says, only £50k more needed, and it's going to get there one way or another. Better if we do not leave it to some underwriter to churn it through the SM. I'm not making any statement about the quality of the loan - other than being pleased about diversity - just promoting my own selfish interests here. I'm in this one too, as, like you, I think we need to support/encourage more borrowers to get better diversification. I'm guessing that many are holding back in the hope that they can pick up underwriter discounts when it goes live. Times seem to have changed; it wasn't long ago that you could buy extra and flip at a premium when loans went live. Or, perhaps it can always go either way depending of the perceived security of the loan. This one's done quite well to get to £800k given that, as you suspected, the OH loans haven't matured in time. Do we know whether underwriters are employed on this one? And if so, will ABLrate sell the difference up £1.2m to them. Presumably there would still be a profit for both ABLrate and the underwriters in doing this.
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Post by blender on Mar 22, 2019 22:50:07 GMT
Thanks, Ace.
The underwriting question has been raised on this one. Please see this post from Ablrate p2pindependentforum.com/post/316313/thread
The suggestion is that we are not going to provide the £850k, only to have the rest given away at a discount. Ablrate is very good, imo, at adapting practices in response to difficulties encountered.
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Post by Ace on Mar 23, 2019 0:11:11 GMT
Ah yes, thanks. I do recall that now. I think I may be trying to manage too many platforms on too little sleep at the moment. Hopefully my walking holiday in the lakes next week will refresh my dozy brain.
Personally I'm ok with underwriters helping projects over the line, and I'm happy to pick up the odd discount to help reinvest returns.
I presume ABLrate's intended policy of limiting underwriter's ability to offload their holdings at a discount is to reduce lender's expectation of these, and hence, make them more likely to commit during the funding phase. And also to reduce the costs of employing underwriters in the first place, which makes sense. If successful, it could result in the opposite situation, where lenders buy extra in the hope of offloading at a premium. I think that there is a very fine balance between the two situations, but the second is healthier (more profitable) for ABLrate, which additionally benefits lenders through being able to attract more borrowers. It could put new lenders off due to the initial cost of buying at premium on the SM for diversification, but scarcity of supply usually increases demand. The beauty of ABLrate's fully functional SM is that everything finds its true level.
On this particular loan it also makes sense to get it away at £850k without underwriters, but with a view to providing extra funds through a second loan in 6 months time if this one is running well. They could then use the SM as a bellwether for lender appetite (no major discounting on the SM would indicate that it was worth a try).
Sorry for rambling on, but writing it down helps me think it through.
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Post by gibmike on Mar 23, 2019 12:05:23 GMT
I am one of those who was waiting for the two OH loans to be paid back and I had earmarked this loan but I am hoping to use the SM in May and get at par or discount.
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Post by nw99 on Mar 23, 2019 18:43:56 GMT
Doubt you can buy at a discount
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Post by elephantrosie on Mar 24, 2019 15:57:20 GMT
i would get more of this when other loans pay
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Post by blender on Mar 26, 2019 11:12:10 GMT
Over the line - right on time.
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Post by nw99 on Mar 26, 2019 16:40:26 GMT
Great update from ablrate just now on this loan should fill quickly using next years IFSA allowance with the extension . quality company
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Post by blender on Mar 29, 2019 17:54:44 GMT
Good luck with that, I think. Lenders did push hard to get it over the £850k mark in the last few days. But an extra two weeks' instant returns will be welcome.
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Apr 12, 2019 20:26:30 GMT
Good luck with that, I think. Lenders did push hard to get it over the £850k mark in the last few days. But an extra two weeks' instant returns will be welcome. Well it seems to be at the brim, which just goes to show the value of perseverance. I'm assuming it will be Monday before it finally goes live.
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Post by df on Apr 12, 2019 20:59:20 GMT
Good luck with that, I think. Lenders did push hard to get it over the £850k mark in the last few days. But an extra two weeks' instant returns will be welcome. Well it seems to be at the brim, which just goes to show the value of perseverance. I'm assuming it will be Monday before it finally goes live. It's closed now.
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Post by blender on Apr 12, 2019 21:09:15 GMT
It has been at zero days left for a few days now. This morning it needed about £100k to reached the target, and all of a sudden it was found. Should draw down next week.
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Post by p2pfan on Aug 26, 2019 14:41:46 GMT
The loan information document states the following in the timeline:
"July'19
Admission to Standard Market, London Stock Exchange"
Did this company admit to the LSE in July? It's nearly September now, but I can't see any reference to this happening online?
Is this not occuring perchance a sign of any issues with the company?
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Post by ilmoro on Aug 26, 2019 15:11:26 GMT
The loan information document states the following in the timeline: "July'19
Admission to Standard Market, London Stock Exchange"
Did this company admit to the LSE in July? It's nearly September now, but I can't see any reference to this happening online? Is this not occuring perchance a sign of any issues with the company? See the latest update posted to docs this month.
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