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Post by charliebrown on Mar 29, 2019 20:12:29 GMT
Looking back on these videos and other interviews with LB he comes across as smarmy, insincere, patronising and untrustworthy. If he was a double glazing salesman or a used car salesman you’d run a mile. All irrelevant now though. I don’t believe for a minute he will have any misgivings about having fleeced thousands of people. Business is business.
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Post by sydb on Mar 29, 2019 22:24:52 GMT
I suspect the language change from safe to high risk is as are silt of the FCA looking over his shoulder. He'd have never said that otherwise. Also, not much harm emphasising the high risk now, is there, after so many have invested so much?
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Post by Mucho P2P on Mar 29, 2019 22:59:16 GMT
I suspect the language change from safe to high risk is as are silt of the FCA looking over his shoulder. He'd have never said that otherwise. There is "risk", there is "high risk" and there is "Russian Roulette", take your pick at what a Lendy investment should really be classified as!
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Post by Mucho P2P on Mar 29, 2019 23:26:56 GMT
But there's 'risk and then there's risk', isn't there? We've seen other p2p platforms distance themselves from this one. Is their distance true or false? I have spoken to many CEOs and Chairmen of other P2P platforms in this country over the past year. I never bring up the Lendy issue, however, about 80% of the time it is brought up by the people I converse with. My general take from our talks is that (a) they do not like the impression/reputation that Lendy gives to the P2P industry and (b) they are waiting to see the outcome of the gross amounts of losses.
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Post by loftankerman on Mar 29, 2019 23:46:04 GMT
I suspect the language change from safe to high risk is as are silt of the FCA looking over his shoulder. He'd have never said that otherwise. There is "risk", there is "high risk" and there is "Russian Roulette", take your pick at what a Lendy investment should really be classified as! You can't possibly equate investing with Lendy to Russian Roulette. In R.R. there is only one bullet in the gun. With Lendy more than half the chamber is full and they randomly re-load between shots.
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Post by michaelc on Mar 30, 2019 0:15:52 GMT
I think people should always be able to spend or waste their cash how they see fit.
I think many people were taken in by the new p2p and fintech bubble and close to zero returns from mainstream deposit accounts.
I think some people, me included, were taken in by what was being written in forums such as this.
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Post by rebull on Mar 30, 2019 8:25:54 GMT
Nobody is happy with the way Lendy has been performing for a while now, and it's all quite understandable. The majority of posts on here are all doom and gloom, pessimistic and despondent, everyone knows the risks of investing in P2P or they should have done, if they did'nt then this is'nt the place for them. Some posts suggest we will be lucky to get 30% of our capital back. Most of my friends have stopped looking on here because of all the negativity. I am not defending Lendy in any way, but i think you can bring your ball back out and give it a little kick around. I'm sure there will be some wise guy smart comments to this, but i think Lendy are trying there best to turn things around from such a mess.
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Post by investor1925 on Mar 30, 2019 8:46:34 GMT
Back in 2016 I was reading a thread on FC I think, & posters on there were slagging off FC about defaults, low(ish) returns etc & saying how wonderful Saving Stream were, with the standard 12% rate & NO defaults. Looking to diversify (I'm now in 9 platforms + Collateral) I started investing & to be fair, I've had over £5k in interest from them. However, SS/Ly have gone the same way (possibly further) than some other platforms in having over-ambitious valuations, slow or no action on recoveries, & lack of adequate communications. Other platforms are now having their detractors, with posters slagging them off left right and centre (FS comes to mind)
So yes, I was taken in by those wonderful comments made back then about SS, just as michaelc & others have been.
As far as Ly are concerned, I've long since assumed that the platform has got a lot to live up to & I'm expecting to get little or no return on my 5 figure investment (I already sold all I could back in 2017).
I read with amusement some of the posts that were saying that Liam has left the UK with our cash in his suitcase, but that's clearly not the case. Yes, he's made his cash (who in the finance industry hasn't) Yes LY are in a bad place. Yes we've been let down.
But the bottom line is that LY are still there, and seem to be trying to recover some of the cash for us (I got over £100 today, which is now on its way to my bank). Lets hope they try harder, because if they don't, then the platform will die on its feet.
Meanwhile, simply slagging people off on this & other threads, ain't going to solve anything.
If I was running a platform & you did that to me, I'd just say s*d you, I'm off, & you'd all be worse off.
Sorry about the rant, I don't do it very often (honest)
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Post by Mucho P2P on Mar 30, 2019 9:53:29 GMT
There is "risk", there is "high risk" and there is "Russian Roulette", take your pick at what a Lendy investment should really be classified as! You can't possibly equate investing with Lendy to Russian Roulette. In R.R. there is only one bullet in the gun. With Lendy more than half the chamber is full and they randomly re-load between shots. Nice analogy Loft, "reload between shots", so true! Maybe it's Financial R.R. Lendy style. Several guns in play and several mostly loaded.
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Post by TenKay on Mar 30, 2019 11:13:46 GMT
There is "risk", there is "high risk" and there is "Russian Roulette", take your pick at what a Lendy investment should really be classified as! You can't possibly equate investing with Lendy to Russian Roulette. In R.R. there is only one bullet in the gun. With Lendy more than half the chamber is full and they randomly re-load between shots. and to add insult to injury some are frangible bullets
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Post by loftankerman on Mar 30, 2019 15:47:49 GMT
Purely as a matter of interest... How was the communication from Liam received ? It doesn't seem to be on the Lendy web site. Apart from occasionally suggesting I might like to invest, I never really receive emails that others seem to get from them.
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Post by archie on Mar 30, 2019 15:56:24 GMT
Purely as a matter of interest... How was the communication from Liam received ? It doesn't seem to be on the Lendy web site. Apart from occasionally suggesting I might like to invest, I never really receive emails that others seem to get from them. Email 29/03/19 16:51 titled 'Update from the CEO'.
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Post by loftankerman on Mar 30, 2019 16:35:49 GMT
Purely as a matter of interest... How was the communication from Liam received ? It doesn't seem to be on the Lendy web site. Apart from occasionally suggesting I might like to invest, I never really receive emails that others seem to get from them. Email 29/03/19 16:51 titled 'Update from the CEO'. Thanks. I didn't receive a copy.
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Post by df on Mar 30, 2019 20:30:03 GMT
I know I am probably driving the wrong way up a one way street here, and yes clearly the language has changed to beware of the sharks, as opposed to salmon fishing in the saving stream, but... There is some positive confirmation of activities in there that make me feel recoveries could be better than I initially thought. Admittedly that was a fairly low bar to clear. I have mastered being patient to a certain extent, so will just go into a Lendy induced coma for three months, and see what things look like when I re awake. As I see it, exercising patience is the healthiest position. There's nothing we can do to recover funds stuck in failed loans. It was good to receive this e-mail, confirmation of activities is much better than silence.
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Post by p2plender on Mar 31, 2019 0:15:07 GMT
Nothing more than an attempt to appease whilst more wages are collected. Trying to look busy, concerned and genuine, all the while any recovery is achieving nothing like the LTV set out to initial investors.
I wouldn't trust Brooke to mind my pint at the bar whilst I visited the toilet. Smarmy, slimy salesman as per Cowes video.
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