garfield
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Post by garfield on May 30, 2019 20:12:07 GMT
Yes, I'm rather keen to find out what if investors are 'creditors' or what exactly our status is... As I understand it RSM are part of Baker Tilly. Isn't it the other way round?
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on May 31, 2019 2:12:04 GMT
No & yes. Baker Tilly took over an RSM entity, changed their name & joined the RSM network.
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Post by p2plender on May 31, 2019 5:54:11 GMT
Question is has Brooke got enough stashed in Spain and Malta to see him through?
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Mucho P2P
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Post by Mucho P2P on May 31, 2019 8:27:13 GMT
Question is has Brooke got enough stashed in Spain and Malta to see him through? That is being investigated in the very near future. What strikes me, is that LB did not seem this wealthy when he started SS, and since them, on his salary alone, he seems to have amassed a fair amount. Maybe he was running other well paying investments in his own private portfolio? Who knows. What is certain, time will tell, and time will reveal.
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Post by Balder on May 31, 2019 8:54:13 GMT
Perhaps it is time to give his name to HMRC to investigate evasion and avoidance.
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Mucho P2P
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Post by Mucho P2P on May 31, 2019 9:06:08 GMT
Perhaps it is time to give his name to HMRC to investigate evasion and avoidance. Not yet........ It took me two months to unravel IS dealings DFL16+17. Off-shore takes forever to track piece by piece. I need some free time in between the other day jobs(!), and I assure you this is on my list and will be done. If anything comes to light, it will be passed to HMRC firstly, then RSM, then FCA.
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Post by zlb on May 31, 2019 9:07:44 GMT
I think that this sentence might indicate what they consider us 'investors/lenders' to be:
Their primary concern and mandate is to ensure that they maximise the return to creditors. In the particular case of the Companies we are also
mindful that it is in the best interest of all stakeholders to maximise the return to investors on loans facilitated by the Companies.
Aside from the different loan contract issue, that is. Are creditors share holders? If yes, who are they?
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Mucho P2P
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Post by Mucho P2P on May 31, 2019 9:55:40 GMT
I think that this sentence might indicate what they consider us 'investors/lenders' to be: Their primary concern and mandate is to ensure that they maximise the return to creditors. In the particular case of the Companies we are also mindful that it is in the best interest of all stakeholders to maximise the return to investors on loans facilitated by the Companies.Aside from the different loan contract issue, that is. Are creditors share holders? If yes, who are they? This is semi-good news. Seems RSM are classifying stakeholders, a predominately USA term to simplify the process, and us lenders as investors (not stakeholders). So, they are looking at the stakeholders (stakeholders will include shareholders and anyone who has a vested interest in Lendy – this includes Liam), to help in repaying the loans facilitated [arranged] by the Lendy Group. They also state that their job is to maximise returns to the creditors of the company, which is not us lenders. This is where some slicing and dicing might occur. From what is publicly available, there are little in the way of assets available to the company, so the creditors will receive little, if anything. Unless RSM decide to slice off some of the lenders assets to repay the creditors. This they might do under the pretext of owed fees or similar. How RSM handle their administration according to their mission statements can be construed as semi-good news as not only it will speed up the process, but it will likely set a precedence for any other implosion of a P2P entity. Now, if only RSM can achieve their statement in quick order and without exorbitant fees, we will all be very, very grateful to them. Zlb – creditors can be shareholders and this might mean that Liam is owed monies. The caveat here is that RSM have to investigate if the owed monies are legally owed.
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Post by investorni on May 31, 2019 10:21:45 GMT
Did anyone happen to download the original faqs from the lendy home page? it has been updated to faqs-29-05-19-2.pdf wondering if anyone with both could fire them into a pdf diff tool and see whats changed?
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Mucho P2P
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Post by Mucho P2P on May 31, 2019 10:32:11 GMT
Did anyone happen to download the original faqs from the lendy home page? it has been updated to faqs-29-05-19-2.pdf wondering if anyone with both could fire them into a pdf diff tool and see whats changed? " We are well-capitalised " still seems to be there, as should have been one of the items to have been removed.
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Post by Greenwood2 on May 31, 2019 10:36:22 GMT
Did anyone happen to download the original faqs from the lendy home page? it has been updated to faqs-29-05-19-2.pdf wondering if anyone with both could fire them into a pdf diff tool and see whats changed? It's been done on Frank. Edit: Also star dust has posted the original text on the pinned locked thread.
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Post by jane on May 31, 2019 10:43:54 GMT
Did anyone happen to download the original faqs from the lendy home page? it has been updated to faqs-29-05-19-2.pdf wondering if anyone with both could fire them into a pdf diff tool and see whats changed? RSM have previously reviewed the Companies’ systems as part of a stand by contingency planning service. Accordingly, RSM are well placed to facilitate an orderly wind-down of the book. We have taken legal advice on the existing relationship and discussed the position with the Financial Conduct Authority (“FCA”). The FCA and RSM are comfortable that adequate safeguards have been put in place to manage any potential conflict issues. Changed to RSM have previously reviewed the Companies’ systems as part of a stand by contingency planning service. Accordingly, RSM are well placed to facilitate an orderly wind-down of the book. We have taken legal advice on the existing relationship and are comfortable that adequate safeguards have been put in place to manage any potential conflict issues. ----- The Administrators will be contacting all borrowers directly and are assessing their ability to repay, at the appropriate maturity dates, or earlier, the monies loaned to them by the Companies. Changed to The Administrators will be contacting all borrowers directly and are assessing their ability to repay, at the appropriate maturity dates, or earlier, the monies loaned facilitated by the Companies. ---- We have set up a dedicated telephone line for all creditors to call which currently has recorded basic information, however, this will be manned during next week to receive creditor calls. The number is 0203 858 9653. Changed to We have set up a dedicated telephone line which currently has recorded basic information, however, this will be manned during next week to receive creditor calls. The number is 0203 858 9653.
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Post by nsinvestor on May 31, 2019 10:53:36 GMT
Question is has Brooke got enough stashed in Spain and Malta to see him through? That is being investigated in the very near future. What strikes me, is that LB did not seem this wealthy when he started SS, and since them, on his salary alone, he seems to have amassed a fair amount. Maybe he was running other well paying investments in his own private portfolio? Who knows. What is certain, time will tell, and time will reveal. As accounts for 2018 have still not been filed, we don't know how much of the £3.4m+ prior retained earnings were paid out as dividends, or what 'contributions' were made to offshore EBTs
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Post by zlb on May 31, 2019 10:54:24 GMT
Did anyone happen to download the original faqs from the lendy home page? it has been updated to faqs-29-05-19-2.pdf wondering if anyone with both could fire them into a pdf diff tool and see whats changed? " We are well-capitalised " still seems to be there, as should have been one of the items to have been removed. unless they are indicating that there has actually been (enough) money set aside for this, as in the orderly wind down if the platform fails.
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zlb
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Post by zlb on May 31, 2019 10:59:24 GMT
I think that this sentence might indicate what they consider us 'investors/lenders' to be: Their primary concern and mandate is to ensure that they maximise the return to creditors. In the particular case of the Companies we are also mindful that it is in the best interest of all stakeholders to maximise the return to investors on loans facilitated by the Companies.Aside from the different loan contract issue, that is. Are creditors share holders? If yes, who are they? Zlb – creditors can be shareholders and this might mean that Liam is owed monies. The caveat here is that RSM have to investigate if the owed monies are legally owed. Yes, suspected so, hence my question - that company directors are share holders - that's reasonably normal practice? Is it also reasonably normal to use share payments to oneself for various taxation reasons? And that within that, there may have been an over-payment? However, if there is no capital apart from in the 'wind-down' fund, how would a creditor end up with something?
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