ilmoro
Member of DD Central
'Wondering which of the bu***rs to blame, and watching for pigs on the wing.' - Pink Floyd
Posts: 11,333 
Likes: 11,552
|
Post by ilmoro on Jun 27, 2019 16:36:01 GMT
Indeed, there is an important notice on the dashboard making the point that non-Lendy investors are welcome. When I logged on earlier, I noted there were 4 unregistered guests online.
|
|
star dust
Member of DD Central
Posts: 2,998
Likes: 3,531
|
Post by star dust on Jun 27, 2019 16:44:35 GMT
Indeed, there is an important notice on the dashboard making the point that non-Lendy investors are welcome. When I logged on earlier, I noted there were 4 unregistered guests online. Does that mean you can view the site without logging in? I didn't think it was a public site - i.e. one anyone with an internet connection and browser can view. I thought it was a private site (i.e. "A web site available only to internal personnel or to registered users or partners with passwords. Synonymous with deep Web")? Or were you referring to the closed Facebook one?
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 16:48:17 GMT
Indeed, there is an important notice on the dashboard making the point that non-Lendy investors are welcome. When I logged on earlier, I noted there were 4 unregistered guests online. It's a private site in that you must become a registered user to view content, unlike for example Wikipedia.
|
|
ilmoro
Member of DD Central
'Wondering which of the bu***rs to blame, and watching for pigs on the wing.' - Pink Floyd
Posts: 11,333
Likes: 11,552
|
Post by ilmoro on Jun 27, 2019 16:50:38 GMT
I agree -- not sure how what I said was contrary to this ?
"But if RSM were to pro-actively open up a dialogue will all Lendy investors, then surely this could lead to significant duplication and for them to collate,manage and assess would add extra fees and thus less ultimately available for distribution."
You suggested that LAG will incur additional fees from the administrators by increasing their workload. I disagree for the reasons set out in my reply. Think youve missed the importance of that initial 'but'. AIUI the OP was arguing that LAG would reduce the amount of time RSM would have to deal with engaging with all lenders individually insert 'hopefully' between 'will' & 'be'
|
|
dovap
Member of DD Central
Posts: 467
Likes: 410
|
Post by dovap on Jun 27, 2019 16:52:40 GMT
the self-appointed non-official 'voice' of lag
really is doing a terrific job of putting me off signing up
are they all like this on lag ?
|
|
ilmoro
Member of DD Central
'Wondering which of the bu***rs to blame, and watching for pigs on the wing.' - Pink Floyd
Posts: 11,333
Likes: 11,552
|
Post by ilmoro on Jun 27, 2019 16:53:58 GMT
Indeed, there is an important notice on the dashboard making the point that non-Lendy investors are welcome. When I logged on earlier, I noted there were 4 unregistered guests online. Does that mean you can view the site without logging in? I didn't think it was a public site - i.e. one anyone with an internet connection and browser can view. I thought it was a private site (i.e. "A web site available only to internal personnel or to registered users or partners with passwords. Synonymous with deep Web")? Or were you referring to the closed Facebook one? The website. I thought it was as @mfry says, restricted to registered users, but then I saw guests disntinguished from registered users. No idea who or what they are.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 16:56:31 GMT
the self-appointed non-official 'voice' of lag really is doing a terrific job of putting me off signing up are they all like this on lag ? No, generally people on LAG are enthusiastic about it.
|
|
Monetus
Member of DD Central
Posts: 1,179
Likes: 2,961
|
Post by Monetus on Jun 27, 2019 16:57:16 GMT
Does that mean you can view the site without logging in? I didn't think it was a public site - i.e. one anyone with an internet connection and browser can view. I thought it was a private site (i.e. "A web site available only to internal personnel or to registered users or partners with passwords. Synonymous with deep Web")? Or were you referring to the closed Facebook one? The website. I thought it was as @mfry says, restricted to registered users, but then I saw guests disntinguished from registered users. No idea who or what they are. That's actually just a bug of the Wordpress membership plug-in/site ilmoro nothing to be concerned about. They are actually people who are on sat on the main domain URL at any one time who strangely show as "guests" even though they aren't logged into the portal. I agree it's confusing so will see if we can fix that.
|
|
sl75
Posts: 2,092
Likes: 1,245
|
Post by sl75 on Jun 27, 2019 16:58:52 GMT
There is an ongoing discussion regarding restricting parts of the site to investors only, and the verification method to achieve that. A real verification method would need to involve the operators of the lendy.co.uk website, as that's the only authority that can definitively confirm whether someone is in fact a lender.
A mechanism involving an authentication token could be used to avoid either site sharing personal information with the other, but require the user to be able to confirm they logged into the lendy.co.uk website as an investor [with an investment in a specific loan] in order to be able to access certain content. There are certainly other services in existence that allow authentication via one website to be used for logging into another, without sharing the login credentials or personal information with the other site... I don't know the detail of how those work, but that could be a model to follow.
For logged-in users of LAG website, perhaps it could record against their profile which attributes have been authenticated [allowing that authentication to be retained in the future even if the operators of the lendy.co.uk website later stop co-operating], but it could also allow for a "browse only" mode for authenticated users of the lendy.co.uk website who are not [yet] willing to share personal information with the LAG website.
|
|
star dust
Member of DD Central
Posts: 2,998
Likes: 3,531
|
Post by star dust on Jun 27, 2019 17:02:43 GMT
Does that mean you can view the site without logging in? I didn't think it was a public site - i.e. one anyone with an internet connection and browser can view. I thought it was a private site (i.e. "A web site available only to internal personnel or to registered users or partners with passwords. Synonymous with deep Web")? Or were you referring to the closed Facebook one? The website. I thought it was as @mfry says, restricted to registered users, but then I saw guests disntinguished from registered users. No idea who or what they are. Yeah, I realise I was probably asking the wrong person  , thanks for clarifying though - guests here are all unregistered (or not logged in) and just viewing the forum. I assumed a bit similar but it sounds a bit odd to have people viewing if you have to log in to see it - perhaps it's the "staff"?
Actually I had hoped it meant they were (as Monetus claimed) going to be a public site so you could view rather than necessarily log in - if all and sundry can join I really don't understand why the entire thing needs to be cloaked in secrecy and private/closed groups?
In Edit: just seen Monetus's explanation - bit odd and creepy, but at least clear.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 17:03:23 GMT
There is an ongoing discussion regarding restricting parts of the site to investors only, and the verification method to achieve that. A real verification method would need to involve the operators of the lendy.co.uk website, as that's the only authority that can definitively confirm whether someone is in fact a lender.
A mechanism involving an authentication token could be used to avoid either site sharing personal information with the other, but require the user to be able to confirm they logged into the lendy.co.uk website as an investor [with an investment in a specific loan] in order to be able to access certain content. There are certainly other services in existence that allow authentication via one website to be used for logging into another, without sharing the login credentials or personal information with the other site... I don't know the detail of how those work, but that could be a model to follow.
For logged-in users of LAG website, perhaps it could record against their profile which attributes have been authenticated [allowing that authentication to be retained in the future even if the operators of the lendy.co.uk website later stop co-operating], but it could also allow for a "browse only" mode for authenticated users of the lendy.co.uk website who are not [yet] willing to share personal information with the LAG website. No it wouldn't. I've already suggested a verification method on LAG which doesn't require any information from the administrators, and also prevents them and any non-investors from accessing restricted areas.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 17:09:06 GMT
The website. I thought it was as @mfry says, restricted to registered users, but then I saw guests disntinguished from registered users. No idea who or what they are. Yeah, I realise I was probably asking the wrong person , thanks for clarifying though - guests here are all unregistered (or not logged in) and just viewing the forum. I assumed a bit similar but it sounds a bit odd to have people viewing if you have to log in to see it - perhaps it's the "staff"?
Actually I had hoped it meant they were (as Monetus claimed) going to be a public site so you could view rather than necessarily log in - if all and sundry can join I really don't understand why the entire thing needs to be cloaked in secrecy and private/closed groups? To ensure we have an area not visible to borrowers, and where the communal discussion can take place without non-investors skewing the course of communications, such as our good friend dovap who posted above, but isn't actually a Lendy investor.
|
|
Monetus
Member of DD Central
Posts: 1,179
Likes: 2,961
|
Post by Monetus on Jun 27, 2019 17:11:33 GMT
"Synonymous with deep Web"
Or Facebook, Instagram, your Internet Banking (Barclays, Natwest etc), DD Central on this very forum and countless other websites that require you to make an account before viewing that aren't synonymous with buying drugs or guns online. 
|
|
star dust
Member of DD Central
Posts: 2,998
Likes: 3,531
|
Post by star dust on Jun 27, 2019 17:17:30 GMT
Yeah, I realise I was probably asking the wrong person , thanks for clarifying though - guests here are all unregistered (or not logged in) and just viewing the forum. I assumed a bit similar but it sounds a bit odd to have people viewing if you have to log in to see it - perhaps it's the "staff"?
Actually I had hoped it meant they were (as Monetus claimed) going to be a public site so you could view rather than necessarily log in - if all and sundry can join I really don't understand why the entire thing needs to be cloaked in secrecy and private/closed groups? To ensure we have an area not visible to borrowers, and where the communal discussion can take place without non-investors skewing the course of communications, such as our good friend dovap who posted above, but isn't actually a Lendy investor. Given you claim you are not a LAG admin I wonder what makes you state " dovap" isn't a Lendy investor? As a member of this forum I wouldn't have a clue whether they are a Lendy investor or not, or indeed even if they are a P2P investor. Furthermore, even if I should know by chance I certainly wouldn't be making public posts about it. I do hope there has been no breach of privacy here by the LAG "staff"?
|
|
star dust
Member of DD Central
Posts: 2,998
Likes: 3,531
|
Post by star dust on Jun 27, 2019 17:20:30 GMT
"Synonymous with deep Web"
Or Facebook, Instagram, your Internet Banking (Barclays, Natwest etc), DD Central on this very forum and countless other websites that require you to make an account before viewing that aren't synonymous with buying drugs or guns online. It was a quote www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia/term/69429/private-website
|
|
, thanks for clarifying though - guests here are all unregistered (or not logged in) and just viewing the forum. I assumed a bit similar but it sounds a bit odd to have people viewing if you have to log in to see it - perhaps it's the "staff"?