Post by twerling on Nov 5, 2014 17:24:11 GMT
adrianc:
The old chestnut: if a majority agrees you should be stolen from, it's not stealing.
I don't give a damn what a majority of people agree. A majority of people think there's a God. A majority of people have no concept for "75%".
A majority of people can't use the words "there", "their" and "they're" appropriately.
Does it follow that if I get you in a room with ten other guys and we all agree you should empty your pockets, therefore you should?
No, I suspect what you really mean is that people like Dave Cameron are just a different, superior kind of person to us mere mortals.
Well you're entitled to worship whatever you want, but you might find you'd be better off bowing down to the tooth fairy than George sodding Osborne.
Look, for now you can steal from me at will: just cast your vote and draw your sword. There's not a damn thing I can do about it. But I am minimising my exposure to your predation and I refuse to cooperate with you.
chielamangus:
All you're saying there is you don't believe a free market is any good. I beg to differ. Controlled, planned economies have performed far worse than the relatively more free economies of the past.
You're entitled to your scepticism of free markets: you can think whatever you like.
Where I draw the line morally is when you draw your sword and tell me to empty my pockets. That I'm not so happy about, and if you want to call it anger, fine.
By the way I'm done here. I'm barely exposed to this nonsense financial instrument any more. I've given all the due warnings that decency requires. Now it's up to you lot. If you want to lend your life's savings to the government, don't come crying to me when they rob you blind.
I won't be back, don't bother trying to bait me out.
"By "pick your pocket", if you mean "without notice help themselves to property or money which they have no legal right to", then - yep, we're in agreement.
If you mean "whatever tax as has been democratically agreed", then - nope, we're not."
If you mean "whatever tax as has been democratically agreed", then - nope, we're not."
The old chestnut: if a majority agrees you should be stolen from, it's not stealing.
I don't give a damn what a majority of people agree. A majority of people think there's a God. A majority of people have no concept for "75%".
A majority of people can't use the words "there", "their" and "they're" appropriately.
Does it follow that if I get you in a room with ten other guys and we all agree you should empty your pockets, therefore you should?
No, I suspect what you really mean is that people like Dave Cameron are just a different, superior kind of person to us mere mortals.
Well you're entitled to worship whatever you want, but you might find you'd be better off bowing down to the tooth fairy than George sodding Osborne.
Look, for now you can steal from me at will: just cast your vote and draw your sword. There's not a damn thing I can do about it. But I am minimising my exposure to your predation and I refuse to cooperate with you.
chielamangus:
By public goods I mean those goods/services which the market would not supply, or not supply in optimum quantities, if left to the private decisions of profit-maximising individuals.
All you're saying there is you don't believe a free market is any good. I beg to differ. Controlled, planned economies have performed far worse than the relatively more free economies of the past.
You're entitled to your scepticism of free markets: you can think whatever you like.
Where I draw the line morally is when you draw your sword and tell me to empty my pockets. That I'm not so happy about, and if you want to call it anger, fine.
By the way I'm done here. I'm barely exposed to this nonsense financial instrument any more. I've given all the due warnings that decency requires. Now it's up to you lot. If you want to lend your life's savings to the government, don't come crying to me when they rob you blind.
I won't be back, don't bother trying to bait me out.
