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Post by Jack Barlow on Nov 4, 2014 12:00:07 GMT
Personally I'd be happy for [the loan id] to replace the thumbnail image as I don't think it adds much.
The combination of loan id plus image in the same column seems to make the loan rows thicker, so ditching the image might help to reduce the thickness of the loan rows and thus reduce the amount of scrolling required when viewing the loan lists.
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Post by bigfoot12 on Nov 4, 2014 12:03:58 GMT
How about dropping the word 'Loan'. For loans 100 and greater the display takes two lines, so removing this word will make the rows thinner, without losing any of the current features.
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Nov 4, 2014 16:36:04 GMT
How about dropping the word 'Loan'. For loans 100 and greater the display takes two lines, so removing this word will make the rows thinner, without losing any of the current features. If we don't know that they're loans by now just shoot us.
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Post by mikes1531 on Nov 4, 2014 19:28:39 GMT
How about dropping the word 'Loan'. For loans 100 and greater the display takes two lines, so removing this word will make the rows thinner, without losing any of the current features. This issue may be somewhat browser dependent. What I see is... So I see two lines for all loans. If we could narrow the lines by removing the word 'Loan' that would be an improvement.
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Post by Jack Barlow on Nov 4, 2014 20:02:05 GMT
For me, the loan image takes up the equivalent of two rows, and the "Loan #xxx" text takes up another two rows. So effectively four rows in total. Removing the "Loan" text would reduce that to three. Removing the image alone would reduce it to two. Removing the image plus the "Loan" text would reduce it to one. But the loan name entry (2nd column in the table) contains a minimum of two rows of text (usually two, sometimes three). So there would always be a reduction in unused space if the effective number of rows occupied by the loan # entry was reduced to three, often a further reduction if reduced to two, but no additional benefit if it was reduced to one. My preference would be for the image to go and for the "Loan" text to go too, with the latter being replaced with "Loan #" in the header, where it is currently blank). [It's perhaps worth remembering that the number being referred to is actually the old "auction id" not the "loan id" which as chris explained in another post isn't the same thing (and can cause great confusion when scrutinising the statement transactions, which reference both the auction id and the loan id occurring in different places). EDIT: Chris has confirmed through a PM that the loan id is not shown on any of the transactions generated by the new system; it's been replaced by the auction id. This causes an inconsistency in the records moving from the old to the new system but should make examination of the statements simpler moving forwards.]
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Post by mikes1531 on Nov 4, 2014 20:15:28 GMT
For me, the loan image takes up the equivalent of two rows, and the "Loan #xxx" text takes up another two rows. So effectively four rows in total. Removing the "Loan" text would reduce that to three. Removing the image alone would reduce it to two. Removing the image plus the "Loan" text would reduce it to one. But the loan name entry (2nd column in the table) contains a minimum of two rows of text (usually two, sometimes three). So there would always be a reduction in unused space if the effective number of rows occupied by the loan # entry was reduced to three, often a further reduction if reduced to two, but no additional benefit if it was reduced to one. Further complications.... If you Opt-Out of a loan, a flag appears in the loan name field reminding you of that, adding another line to that table entry. And if you've disabled AI for a loan, a flag appears in the loan name field reminding you of that and adds another line. Example...
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Post by bigfoot12 on Nov 4, 2014 20:22:47 GMT
How about dropping the word 'Loan'. For loans 100 and greater the display takes two lines, so removing this word will make the rows thinner, without losing any of the current features. This issue may be somewhat browser dependent. What I see is... So I see two lines for all loans. If we could narrow the lines by removing the word 'Loan' that would be an improvement. It seems to depend on what else is being displayed. If I look at 'Browse Loans' I see it as you do, but if I filter by loans I have targeted I see it as I described.
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Post by bigfoot12 on Nov 4, 2014 20:24:45 GMT
For me, the loan image takes up the equivalent of two rows, and the "Loan #xxx" text takes up another two rows. So effectively four rows in total. Removing the "Loan" text would reduce that to three. Removing the image alone would reduce it to two. Removing the image plus the "Loan" text would reduce it to one. But the loan name entry (2nd column in the table) contains a minimum of two rows of text (usually two, sometimes three). So there would always be a reduction in unused space if the effective number of rows occupied by the loan # entry was reduced to three, often a further reduction if reduced to two, but no additional benefit if it was reduced to one. Further complications.... If you Opt-Out of a loan, a flag appears in the loan name field reminding you of that, adding another line to that table entry. And if you've disabled AI for a loan, a flag appears in the loan name field reminding you of that and adds another line. Example... I like seeing the opt out flag, and when I hover I see my comment. Now if only we could add a similar comment to the rest of the loans...
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Post by mikes1531 on Nov 4, 2014 20:39:51 GMT
So I see two lines for all loans. If we could narrow the lines by removing the word 'Loan' that would be an improvement. It seems to depend on what else is being displayed. If I look at 'Browse Loans' I see it as you do, but if I filter by loans I have targeted I see it as I described. It's more complicated than that. My screenshot was of Cumbria & Dorset, so was in alphabetic order, which means it was my targeted loans because my Browse All Loans is in a different order. In my case, both of those tables use two lines for that data. And in case anyone is wondering, loans with single digit numbers also go onto two lines. I tried changing my browser's -- I'm using Firefox -- font size to larger or smaller, but that had no impact on this issue.
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Post by bigfoot12 on Nov 4, 2014 21:06:28 GMT
I'm using Firefox too. It might be that none of the loans I have invested in have long names so there is more width for the icon column.
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Post by mikes1531 on Nov 4, 2014 21:38:06 GMT
I'm using Firefox too. It might be that none of the loans I have invested in have long names so there is more width for the icon column. I think that's it! If I do a search for #136, the result is a one-entry table, and "Loan #136" fits on one line. Now if the system is smart enough to change the column widths to accommodate the length of the contents, why isn't it smart enough to detect the size of my window and use more of it so I don't have so much wasted space in the window at the sides of the tables?
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Post by bigfoot12 on Nov 5, 2014 9:06:07 GMT
Hopefully that is the sort of thing the new guy is going to sort out for us.I can see that for now they have higher priorities.
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Post by niceguy37 on Nov 5, 2014 16:08:50 GMT
I was thinking about Auto-Diversification on the Manual Loan Investment Account. At present I find I need to keep a balance in the MLIA readily available to take advantage of any loan parts on my most wanted list that might come up for sale. Obviously this money is not earning interest, and it takes monitoring to keep it at the desired level.
It would be really great if we could group our targetted loans into categories. For example the first category could be First Tier "highly desirably" loans, then Second Tier "desirable" loans, then Third Tier "okay for diversification" and Fourth Tier "okay for now to get invested and earning interest / purchased with a view to selling on when something better comes along", and possibly Fifth Tier "Trying to exit".
Each loan would have a target, as at present. An Auto-Diversification program, when turned on by the lender, could then try to purchase loan parts as they become available to meet the targets set, giving the highest priority to the First Tier, then the Second Tier, then the Third etc, selling off lower ranking loans to pay for higher ranking loans as and when the opportunity to purchase arose.
This system would enable lenders to set their targets once for each loan, and would automatically trade loan parts that we want less of for those we favour more highly if they become available.
Advantages: Once loans are allocated targets and Tier ranking it is automatic. No need to keep a balance on hand waiting for any opportunities to come up, increasing overall efficiency of the platform, and most importantly our XIRR returns.
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Post by chris on Nov 5, 2014 16:16:54 GMT
niceguy37 - for now auto-diversification is going to keep its distance from the manual loan investment accounts. It'll only operate on the fully automated products at the time of launch as there's too much scope for the system doing something the lender doesn't expect even if it is following their instructions. In time we'll reexamine that though, perhaps even letting lenders define their own manual loan investment accounts, setting explicit targets for those. Let's bed the systems in first though.
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Post by niceguy37 on Nov 5, 2014 16:25:44 GMT
niceguy37 - for now auto-diversification is going to keep its distance from the manual loan investment accounts. It'll only operate on the fully automated products at the time of launch as there's too much scope for the system doing something the lender doesn't expect even if it is following their instructions. In time we'll reexamine that though, perhaps even letting lenders define their own manual loan investment accounts, setting explicit targets for those. Let's bed the systems in first though. I agree you've got plenty of work to be going on with for the moment, but I thought I'd make the suggestion for you to consider for longer term plans. I'm conscious of the time I spend monitoring my AC account tinkering with balances and targets, and I'm sure most ISA investors won't have the same time or interest in doing so.
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