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Post by paul123 on Jan 29, 2020 17:16:33 GMT
My attempt at clarifying some points about CC, CLB and LAG. The members of the CC did nearly all the LAG work last year including the website and facebook. Towards the end of the year, it became apparent that the members of the CC would only be permitted to discuss matters pertaining to the fate of creditors and if the CC attempted to represent lenders where there was a conflict with creditors then RSM might rightly decide to cancel the CC. I’d imagine most of us lenders are heavy on the Model 2 loans and light (or non-existent) on the (M1) loans and I’m sure the members of the CC are the same but going forward the CC must represent creditors only and keep to their remit of challenging RSM on costs, etc only. RSM set up the CLB with Grant Thornton, the “conflict administrator” for SSSH (the M2 lenders vehicle). The CLB should be able to help GT on the interests of (M2) lenders. But the CLB lean on GT and GT lean on RSM but will that really work? RSM is the administrator for both “Lendy” *and* SSSH so RSM is still pretty conflicted surely? The (M2) lenders desperately need someone acting for them and them alone. An entity that will challenge the secret (borrower side) default fees/waterfall and lenders be paid according to what they signed up for, etc. Ultimately this *will* be decided by a court process which is why the LAG “Legal Group” has been formed. It is independent from the CC as it must be. It’s purpose is to represent M2 lenders only and it is lawyering up (sigh) just like RSM is. Details on adjacent thread p2pindependentforum.com/thread/16586/lendy-action-group-fund-raise
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Post by nyneil on Jan 30, 2020 17:32:00 GMT
Small investors cannot be made to contribute and they have little motivation to do so - it will probably be viewed as throwing good money after bad Realistically it is only those who have larger sums at risk that will have the will and perhaps resources to take things further. I don't relish this state of affairs but I think it is a realistic assessment. I am a small investor with c£4.5k tied up, but I would be willing to contribute 5% I am also a small investor in Lendy and have contributed c1% It's important not only to show strength and determination in this case, but also send out a message to the p2p & administration industries, that lenders will not just roll over and be shafted; we will band together to fight any perceived injustice.
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Post by travolta on Jan 30, 2020 17:41:05 GMT
I hear the doubts of small investors but I have suffered a massive hit from Lendys performance . £I is a cuppo tea from Donalds... I gave £50 and (tap) water is good for you,isnt it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 7:53:58 GMT
The (M2) lenders desperately need someone acting for them and them alone. An entity that will challenge the secret (borrower side) default fees/waterfall and lenders be paid according to what they signed up for, etc. Ultimately this *will* be decided by a court process which is why the LAG “Legal Group” has been formed. It is independent from the CC as it must be. It’s purpose is to represent M2 lenders only and it is lawyering up (sigh) just like RSM is. Details on adjacent thread p2pindependentforum.com/thread/16586/lendy-action-group-fund-raiseHonestly, this point goes beyond just Lendy. Any court process or decision that sets precedent in favour of creditors/administrators helping themselves to lender money that is supposed to be ring-fenced... this will have potential ramifications for *ALL* P2P platforms, not just Lendy. This could become a case about whether ring-fencing is even possible in the P2P world when platforms enter administration, if platforms acting as agents can insert this kind of language in contracts without lender knowledge. So yes, there is a possibility that some Lendy-specific contract detail swings the court, there is also the possibility that some broad legal principle could lead to a ruling impacting every single P2P lender on every platform out there. At least that is my interpretation as a risk and correlation obsessed person
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