michaelc
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Post by michaelc on Oct 1, 2020 18:11:25 GMT
It gets worse. She wrote in the Daily Record about Cummings that he should resign etc etc and was generally outspoken about it. She then went to the Commons to discuss matters around Covid.
She's gone I've not doubt.
This woman actually had a positive test result for Covid and still travelled on public transport as well as being all over parliament. At least Cumming scurried off in his own car.
Disclaimer: I have no feelings either way about either her or Cummings politically. I don't buy conspiracy theories about Cummings running the show and equally I think the SNP have done some good things in Scotland. I hope anyone who comments on this separates their behaviour from their political beliefs.
EDIT: If these people can't follow their own rules and indeed the top guy doesn't even know what the rules are, they can't expect anyone else to follow them. They need to pause and think about what they are doing. They need to stop following most of the rest of the world and the conflicting science that has led all this suppression known as "lockdown".
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Post by slippery on Oct 1, 2020 19:03:18 GMT
A man who breached Manx Covid-19 rules by visiting a doctor's surgery and then refusing to leave has been jailed. Douglas Courthouse was told Justin Hughes, of Parsonage Road, Ramsey, went to a surgery after returning from Thailand, but became "irate" when he was told he should be self-isolating. Hughes, 48, only left the premises when police were called, the court heard. Sentencing him to four weeks in prison, magistrates said a surgery was the "worst place" he could have visited. Under Manx rules, all travellers returning to the island must self-isolate at home for a mandatory 14 days, though residents can take a Covid-19 test to reduce that time. The court heard Hughes, who had been living in Thailand for a year before his return on Monday, had initially travelled by bus to a friend's home in Ramsey. The following morning, he went to a surgery and asked for an appointment, telling the receptionist he had recently returned from abroad. The hearing was told when she said he should be self-isolating, he became "irate". His refusal to leave meant other patients had to move out of a waiting area and when a doctor again asked him to go home, he refused and sat on a chair. He only left after police were called and was arrested shortly after on Bowring Road, later admitting to officers he had also visited a shop to buy food as there was "nothing in" at his address. Representing himself, Hughes said he "didn't think it through" and did not "fully understand" the seriousness of his actions at the time. He said he had tested negative for Covid-19 three times before returning, and had been wearing a mask when outside. Sentencing him, magistrates said a surgery was the "worst place" he could have gone to, as there may have been patients "in a weakened condition who were more susceptible" to the virus. Isle of Man still sending out a clear message. This idiot most certainly deserved jail. Wonder what he caught in Thailand
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Post by df on Oct 1, 2020 19:37:44 GMT
It gets worse. She wrote in the Daily Record about Cummings that he should resign etc etc and was generally outspoken about it. She then went to the Commons to discuss matters around Covid. She's gone I've not doubt.This woman actually had a positive test result for Covid and still travelled on public transport as well as being all over parliament. At least Cumming scurried off in his own car. Disclaimer: I have no feelings either way about either her or Cummings politically. I don't buy conspiracy theories about Cummings running the show and equally I think the SNP have done some good things in Scotland. I hope anyone who comments on this separates their behaviour from their political beliefs. EDIT: If these people can't follow their own rules and indeed the top guy doesn't even know what the rules are, they can't expect anyone else to follow them. They need to pause and think about what they are doing. They need to stop following most of the rest of the world and the conflicting science that has led all this suppression known as "lockdown". Yes, I'm sure Nicola won't be pleased with this
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Post by ilmoro on Oct 1, 2020 20:43:58 GMT
Well I guess that the front pages of all the newspapers for the next week, the lead story on every news bulletin - cant be any less given she has out-Cumminged Cummings and Nicola has been more restrictive than Boris on CV19, No childcare issues suggested and used the train so eyesight not relevant so not even a selection of pathetic, unbelievable excuses available. By-election inevitable
But then she is an SNP MP so I doubt the resident of my hat will need to move
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Post by r00lish67 on Oct 2, 2020 7:53:22 GMT
Well I guess that the front pages of all the newspapers for the next week, the lead story on every news bulletin.... Or maybe not Trump's done her a favour. What she did seems inexcusable. She should (and I'm sure will) go, just as Dom should have. What she was thinking I can't imagine.
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Oct 2, 2020 8:13:44 GMT
Well I guess that the front pages of all the newspapers for the next week, the lead story on every news bulletin.... Or maybe not Trump's done her a favour. What she did seems inexcusable. She should (and I'm sure will) go, just as Dom should have. What she was thinking I can't imagine.
The MP Margaret Ferrier probably felt okay-ish, and it just didn't seem necessary.
Elsewhere,
That's one way to end the slanging matches (debates) by quarantining.
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Post by IFISAcava on Oct 2, 2020 8:30:27 GMT
Well I guess that the front pages of all the newspapers for the next week, the lead story on every news bulletin.... Or maybe not Trump's done her a favour. What she did seems inexcusable. She should (and I'm sure will) go, just as Dom should have. What she was thinking I can't imagine. In retrospect, Dom couldn't have gone because without him our PM has absolutely no coherent ideas or plan, and everyone around the PM has been chosen on the basis of blind obedience to the government line and subservience to the idealism of purist Brexitology. Cummings IS the government at the moment. But more and more his failure to go exemplifies the decayed core of this failing and corrupt administration. OK - got that off my chest.
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Post by dan1 on Oct 2, 2020 8:41:11 GMT
Or maybe not Trump's done her a favour. What she did seems inexcusable. She should (and I'm sure will) go, just as Dom should have. What she was thinking I can't imagine. In retrospect, Dom couldn't have gone because without him our PM has absolutely no coherent ideas or plan, and everyone around the PM has been chosen on the basis of blind obedience to the government line and subservience to the idealism of purist Brexitology. Cummings IS the government at the moment. But more and more his failure to go exemplifies the decayed core of this failing and corrupt administration. OK - got that off my chest. Another great Harry Lambert long read... www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/09/end-affair-how-tory-mps-are-falling-out-love-boris-johnsonRight, I'm off to read some Graham Greene
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Post by dan1 on Oct 2, 2020 9:08:36 GMT
The weather has turned and, like every year, it takes me time to adjust to the thought of a long autumn/winter. Especially so this year in the absence of much of the human contact those lucky enough to have friends and family have become accustomed to. And yet, I seek solace in stuff like current affairs and random discussions on forums like this. In that respect I feel somewhat blessed that we have Trump's health, the US election, a by election, brexit trade deal, and the continuing shennanigans at No.10 to look forward to. None of which I have any control over and probably make less difference to my life than I probably believe but it takes the realisation of what's actually going on in my life away from me for a while ~~~~~~ I think those in political circles should have the book thrown at them at a time like this - I can't think of many things more imortant than public messaging at the moment. That SNP woman has to go and be prosecuted, if that's available. Cummings has to go. Corbyn should have the Whip withdrawn and should resign. Boris' dad should be fined. As long as there is one law for "them" and another for "us" then forget public compliance.... We're doomed
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Post by jonno on Oct 2, 2020 9:44:33 GMT
Or maybe not Trump's done her a favour. What she did seems inexcusable. She should (and I'm sure will) go, just as Dom should have. What she was thinking I can't imagine. In retrospect, Dom couldn't have gone because without him our PM has absolutely no coherent ideas or plan, and everyone around the PM has been chosen on the basis of blind obedience to the government line and subservience to the idealism of purist Brexitology. Cummings IS the government at the moment. But more and more his failure to go exemplifies the decayed core of this failing and corrupt administration. OK - got that off my chest. Whilst I agree with the general thrust of your argument, you infer that the PM HAS a coherent idea or plan Dear God.
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 2, 2020 10:06:11 GMT
..... I think those in political circles should have the book thrown at them at a time like this - I can't think of many things more imortant than public messaging at the moment. That SNP woman has to go and be prosecuted, if that's available. Cummings has to go. Corbyn should have the Whip withdrawn and should resign. Boris' dad should be fined. As long as there is one law for "them" and another for "us" then forget public compliance.... We're doomed This.
Except for one point. Boris's dad should not be considered as part of the political circle. We may wish ill of him as having been responsible for his issue, but that's about it.
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Post by dan1 on Oct 2, 2020 10:23:17 GMT
..... I think those in political circles should have the book thrown at them at a time like this - I can't think of many things more imortant than public messaging at the moment. That SNP woman has to go and be prosecuted, if that's available. Cummings has to go. Corbyn should have the Whip withdrawn and should resign. Boris' dad should be fined. As long as there is one law for "them" and another for "us" then forget public compliance.... We're doomed This.
Except for one point. Boris's dad should not be considered as part of the political circle. We may wish ill of him as having been responsible for his issue, but that's about it. I respectfully disagree. Likewise I would throw the book at Piers Corbyn for his law breaking - and he's a far bigger danger and associated with Jeremy Corbyn's large following just as Stanley Johnson is associated with Boris Johnson. I believe it matters a great deal to the 99% who really don't give a **** about politics. What "we" (i.e. the public health message) have to avoid are front pages like this... It destroys the messaging... "Boris' dad doesn't wear a mask so why should I?"
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Post by james100 on Oct 2, 2020 10:27:01 GMT
..... I think those in political circles should have the book thrown at them at a time like this - I can't think of many things more imortant than public messaging at the moment. That SNP woman has to go and be prosecuted, if that's available. Cummings has to go. Corbyn should have the Whip withdrawn and should resign. Boris' dad should be fined. As long as there is one law for "them" and another for "us" then forget public compliance.... We're doomed This.
Except for one point. Boris's dad should not be considered as part of the political circle. We may wish ill of him as having been responsible for his issue, but that's about it. I would beg to differ. Stanley Johnson was sent to stand in for him in a GE debate. Puts his own face very much out there in political terms and Boris is apparently supportive which is a highly unusual state of affairs (clue: my father would not turn up to a job interview on my behalf and nor would I ask him to). He is as much part of the political circle as Dominic Cummings IMHO - they are both unelected wingmen seen by the general public as proxies for our somewhat absent PM.
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Post by registerme on Oct 2, 2020 11:21:53 GMT
Good job Trump.
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Post by benaj on Oct 2, 2020 13:44:53 GMT
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