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Post by michaelc on Nov 18, 2020 21:45:59 GMT
Not about vaccines but definitely on the thread's topic, has anyone else considered an aspect of safe flying - namely the air vents above your seat.
By default they seem to be switched off but without doing any significant research, it would seem to me you'd be far better off having them blast filtered air all over your face. Anyone else have a view?
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Post by Nomad on Nov 18, 2020 21:58:28 GMT
Not about vaccines but definitely on the thread's topic, has anyone else considered an aspect of safe flying - namely the air vents above your seat. By default they seem to be switched off but without doing any significant research, it would seem to me you'd be far better off having them blast filtered air all over your face. Anyone else have a view? I make a point of having the vent open throughout a flight.
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Post by registerme on Nov 18, 2020 23:06:59 GMT
Not about vaccines but definitely on the thread's topic, has anyone else considered an aspect of safe flying - namely the air vents above your seat. By default they seem to be switched off but without doing any significant research, it would seem to me you'd be far better off having them blast filtered air all over your face. Anyone else have a view? Sh*t in, sh*t out. It depends, entirely, on how good the filtration system is in the aircraft.
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Post by aidanw on Nov 19, 2020 7:48:52 GMT
Not about vaccines but definitely on the thread's topic, has anyone else considered an aspect of safe flying - namely the air vents above your seat. By default they seem to be switched off but without doing any significant research, it would seem to me you'd be far better off having them blast filtered air all over your face. Anyone else have a view? There was an article in New Scientist a few years back that said having the air vent open - but pointing it away from you - was the safest strategy according to some research.
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Post by adrianc on Nov 19, 2020 8:38:22 GMT
Not about vaccines but definitely on the thread's topic, has anyone else considered an aspect of safe flying - namely the air vents above your seat. By default they seem to be switched off but without doing any significant research, it would seem to me you'd be far better off having them blast filtered air all over your face. Anyone else have a view? The chances of me getting on a high-altitude-plague-tube at the moment are slightly lower than me learning to fly for myself. We have two friends who are American, both facing imminent loss of parents still living in the US. One decided to fly - every precaution, two weeks isolation on arrival, two weeks isolation on return. The other decided not to - and, for added complication, is also facing the imminent loss of her sister (also in the US). I can understand both decisions, and would not want to have to make that decision myself. Anything less compelling, nope... A week all-inclusive in Torremolinos? You have to be kidding. Meanwhile, the Freemen-on-the-Land seem to be getting new recruits from those who don't see why lockdown has to apply to them and their businesses. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-54950773www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/salon-owner-facing-bigger-punishment-19263012
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Post by Nomad on Nov 19, 2020 8:44:54 GMT
Not about vaccines but definitely on the thread's topic, has anyone else considered an aspect of safe flying - namely the air vents above your seat. By default they seem to be switched off but without doing any significant research, it would seem to me you'd be far better off having them blast filtered air all over your face. Anyone else have a view? Sh*t in, sh*t out. It depends, entirely, on how good the filtration system is in the aircraft. www.iata.org/contentassets/f1163430bba94512a583eb6d6b24aa56/cabin-air-quality.pdf
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Post by r00lish67 on Nov 19, 2020 8:56:19 GMT
Not about vaccines but definitely on the thread's topic, has anyone else considered an aspect of safe flying - namely the air vents above your seat. By default they seem to be switched off but without doing any significant research, it would seem to me you'd be far better off having them blast filtered air all over your face. Anyone else have a view? The chances of me getting on a high-altitude-plague-tube at the moment are slightly lower than me learning to fly for myself. We have two friends who are American, both facing imminent loss of parents still living in the US. One decided to fly - every precaution, two weeks isolation on arrival, two weeks isolation on return. The other decided not to - and, for added complication, is also facing the imminent loss of her sister (also in the US). I can understand both decisions, and would not want to have to make that decision myself. Anything less compelling, nope... A week all-inclusive in Torremolinos? You have to be kidding. Oh, I don't know, the filtration systems on planes have to make it better than being on a bus. Also, many destinations currently require a negative PCR test to enter the country (e.g. Spain from the 23rd), so that surely lowers the risk too. That said, yeah, not ideal holiday conditions unless you like running big risks around your flights being cancelled or being locked down or locked out of wherever you want to go. Also many ideal holiday destinations have less than ideal hospitals in the worst case.
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Post by agent69 on Nov 19, 2020 9:26:54 GMT
The chances of me getting on a high-altitude-plague-tube at the moment are slightly lower than me learning to fly for myself. We have two friends who are American, both facing imminent loss of parents still living in the US. One decided to fly - every precaution, two weeks isolation on arrival, two weeks isolation on return. The other decided not to - and, for added complication, is also facing the imminent loss of her sister (also in the US). I can understand both decisions, and would not want to have to make that decision myself. Anything less compelling, nope... A week all-inclusive in Torremolinos? You have to be kidding. Meanwhile, the Freemen-on-the-Land seem to be getting new recruits from those who don't see why lockdown has to apply to them and their businesses. Is there any evidence of a significantly enhanced risk when flying (you know hospital grade air filtration systems)? I assume if they were 'plague tubes' the unions would all be up in arms, and it doesn't normally take a lot to get Unite going.
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Post by michaelc on Nov 19, 2020 10:56:27 GMT
Not about vaccines but definitely on the thread's topic, has anyone else considered an aspect of safe flying - namely the air vents above your seat. By default they seem to be switched off but without doing any significant research, it would seem to me you'd be far better off having them blast filtered air all over your face. Anyone else have a view? The chances of me getting on a high-altitude-plague-tube at the moment are slightly lower than me learning to fly for myself. We have two friends who are American, both facing imminent loss of parents still living in the US. One decided to fly - every precaution, two weeks isolation on arrival, two weeks isolation on return. The other decided not to - and, for added complication, is also facing the imminent loss of her sister (also in the US). I can understand both decisions, and would not want to have to make that decision myself. Anything less compelling, nope... A week all-inclusive in Torremolinos? You have to be kidding. Meanwhile, the Freemen-on-the-Land seem to be getting new recruits from those who don't see why lockdown has to apply to them and their businesses. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-54950773www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/salon-owner-facing-bigger-punishment-19263012As you point out, some of us don't have much of a choice. Lets hope my recent flight wasn't a "plague tube".
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Post by agent69 on Nov 19, 2020 12:04:45 GMT
As you point out, some of us don't have much of a choice. Lets hope my recent flight wasn't a "plague tube". If you look at the Flyertalk website, most travellers appear more concerned about the downgrading of food and drink offerings than with contracting the virus on their flight.
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Post by michaelc on Nov 19, 2020 12:18:42 GMT
As you point out, some of us don't have much of a choice. Lets hope my recent flight wasn't a "plague tube". If you look at the Flyertalk website, most travellers appear more concerned about the downgrading of food and drink offerings than with contracting the virus on their flight. Could it be many of them are in a younger age bracket ?
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 19, 2020 12:21:37 GMT
If you look at the Flyertalk website, most travellers appear more concerned about the downgrading of food and drink offerings than with contracting the virus on their flight. Could it be many of them are in a younger age bracket ? About 4-6 weeks after the flight, that is a likely outcome......
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Post by michaelc on Nov 19, 2020 12:29:47 GMT
Could it be many of them are in a younger age bracket ? About 4-6 weeks after the flight, that is a likely outcome...... Considering I've just said I've recently been on a flight and it is unlikely I'm in a younger age bracket which I'm not, I consider your post worrying and trolling. To think you used to be an administrator on this site.
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 19, 2020 12:39:41 GMT
About 4-6 weeks after the flight, that is a likely outcome...... Considering I've just said I've recently been on a flight and it is unlikely I'm in a younger age bracket which I'm not, I consider your post worrying and trolling. To think you used to be an administrator on this site. what ? Its meant as a joke for god's sake. How on earth is that 'trolling' ? It was you that started a topic on the about air vents, and positioinng, and hope it didn't turn into a "plague tube".
Sorry, but that is just a bizarre response.
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Post by adrianc on Nov 19, 2020 13:22:53 GMT
We have two friends who are American, both facing imminent loss of parents still living in the US. One decided to fly - every precaution, two weeks isolation on arrival, two weeks isolation on return. The other decided not to - and, for added complication, is also facing the imminent loss of her sister (also in the US). I can understand both decisions, and would not want to have to make that decision myself. Anything less compelling, nope... As you point out, some of us don't have much of a choice. Lets hope my recent flight wasn't a "plague tube". Actually, I pointed out that in almost every circumstance there IS a choice. It might not be a choice you want to make, but that's 2020... Like I said - one of our friends decided that she would prefer to miss her mother's funeral and almost certainly never see her sister again, than hang around four airports and spend sixteen hours in planes. And I can absolutely understand and respect that choice. Fortunately, it's not one I'm likely to need to make. There's too many people prioritising personal preference and convenience over basic common sense and social protection - and that's why we're still in this saga. Look at the current outrage over Xmas for a great example of sheer selfishness in action.
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