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Post by agent69 on Oct 5, 2020 9:34:46 GMT
That's what's surprising about them now saying "Less than half the UK population can expect to be vaccinated against coronavirus". I guess that by the time the vacine is available getting on for 10m people will have been exposed to the virus. Add in about 20m youngsters who are very low risk, and 50% doesn't look unreasonable.
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Post by registerme on Oct 5, 2020 9:45:39 GMT
Well, my lodger, who's had a bad cough for the last day or two (and who's also a hypochondriac) has just ordered a test. Not, in my view, unnecessarily. So at least until she gets her result back I am now officially self-isolating. Ho hum. Good luck. If it gets too much, I hear that short car rides with your bodyguards is OK though. I hear County Durham is quite nice this time of year.
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Post by ilmoro on Oct 5, 2020 10:15:14 GMT
Good luck. If it gets too much, I hear that short car rides with your bodyguards is OK though. I hear County Durham is quite nice this time of year. That suggests a lack of ambition ... after all you can go to Scotland & back How about a trip to Liverpool ... lots of stories today about neighbours letting in more than 6 ... no doubt Jezza is on his way already
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Post by agent69 on Oct 5, 2020 11:07:26 GMT
I've often thought that of all the sports we play in this country professional football was most lacking in a moral compass (never seen a premier league player, manager or owner who wouldn't sell their granny's soul to the devil if they thought they could make a couple of quid on the deal).
Not suprising therefore that 3 more England players have been caught breaking Covid regulations to attend a birthday party. However, it's all ok as they've all said sorry.
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Post by mrk on Oct 5, 2020 11:15:13 GMT
The UK actually made deals that would cover almost 4 times the entire population. That's what's surprising about them now saying "Less than half the UK population can expect to be vaccinated against coronavirus". It will be the same as the flu jab then, older, vulnerable, etc, although I think anyone can get the flu jab at a small cost. The Gov were hedging their bets on the Covid jab, not all are expected to work well after testing and you may need two of some of them for protection (spaced a few weeks? apart). Yes, the FT article does mention that vaccines "are likely to require two doses, which is why the vaccine deals with manufacturers have been done in multiples of 60m". However this approach means it's critical how effective the vaccine will be for older people, not just for the majority of the population, and that's more challenging.
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Post by jonno on Oct 5, 2020 11:19:24 GMT
Good luck. If it gets too much, I hear that short car rides with your bodyguards is OK though. I hear County Durham is quite nice this time of year. You could always buy her a train ticket to Glasgow
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Post by agent69 on Oct 5, 2020 11:21:47 GMT
It will be the same as the flu jab then, older, vulnerable, etc, although I think anyone can get the flu jab at a small cost. The Gov were hedging their bets on the Covid jab, not all are expected to work well after testing and you may need two of some of them for protection (spaced a few weeks? apart). I've got mine booked next week at a local chemist for £12.99.
I'm not entitled to a free jab, but considering the current situation I thought it sensible.
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Post by dan1 on Oct 5, 2020 11:23:14 GMT
I hear County Durham is quite nice this time of year. You could always buy her a train ticket to Glasgow Now now jonno - that's not official advice
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Post by registerme on Oct 5, 2020 12:37:13 GMT
Excel.
You couldn't make it up.
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 5, 2020 12:45:50 GMT
Excel. You couldn't make it up. what the .............
Still: i'm not sure that this is what is driving their view on prevalence is it ? Now that they have the ONS community testing in place, aren't they likely to use that as the primary input and more accurate indicator of prevalence in the population ?
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Post by mrk on Oct 5, 2020 13:13:44 GMT
Excel. You couldn't make it up.
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Post by michaelc on Oct 5, 2020 13:30:57 GMT
Or are they covering up how bad he is, it doesn't sound like the doctors are being exactly straight one way or another. He seems to be on some pretty heavy meds for someone who is absolutely fine. Now, all bets are off when it comes to this President, and this Administration, and its supporters / facilitators. Some of the latter, unfortunately, include doctors. But still, has anybody ever heard of a doctor using an experimental treatment on somebody who wasn't at death's door? Maybe the answer is yes, and along the lines of "in a blind controlled experimental trial". Does anybody think it likely that the President of the United States of America would be used as a blind control in an experimental trial? Somebody ain't telling the truth here. I wondered about that and I thought that Trump (and possibly his medical team) thinks he is the most important person in the world and thus must have some extra "special" treatment. By taking experimental drugs he probably thinks they are the latest&greatest which no doubt they are without worrying too much about the experimental bit. So in reality he may be getting worse treatment than us plebs because most of us wouldn't be asked to take those risks. The reason everyone isn't given them isn't due to cost or supply (medium term) but due to the fact that there might be inherent dangers we don't know about yet. So they are not good enough to give to normal folk but they're given to the president which means he has a lower quality of treatment than we get but thinks it is better. Everyone's a winner.
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Post by bernythedolt on Oct 5, 2020 15:28:05 GMT
It will be the same as the flu jab then, older, vulnerable, etc, although I think anyone can get the flu jab at a small cost. The Gov were hedging their bets on the Covid jab, not all are expected to work well after testing and you may need two of some of them for protection (spaced a few weeks? apart). I've got mine booked next week at a local chemist for £12.99.
I'm not entitled to a free jab, but considering the current situation I thought it sensible.
Gov't presumably thinks so too, by allowing this to continue. Meanwhile, Mrs Dolt and I live in hope there's enough left over for ourselves and the other truly vulnerable... www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/28/elderly-facing-winter-flu-vaccine-shortage/
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Post by bernythedolt on Oct 5, 2020 15:41:55 GMT
Well, my lodger, who's had a bad cough for the last day or two (and who's also a hypochondriac) has just ordered a test. Not, in my view, unnecessarily. So at least until she gets her result back I am now officially self-isolating. Ho hum. Hope it comes back negative. I think I'd rather have a hypochondriac lodger than one who was "fearless" at a time like this. Must be difficult not to catch whatever it is... even if it comes back negative then it'll be informative whether you catch the cause of the cough. ~~~~ bernythedolt - have you received the results of your AB test? Thanks for asking, dan1 . I got a negative. I take that to mean (a) I was infected on our cruise ship in January and the antibodies have since 'expired' (probably unlikely), (b) ditto, and I mounted no antibody response (even more unlikely), or (c) I have not been infected (most likely by far). registerme , is your lodger's test an antibody kit? If so, be aware they suggest you leave it at least 14 days post-infection before drawing your blood, to allow time for the antibodies to show up. Or at least my test made that recommendation: www.testingforall.org/individuals/
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 5, 2020 16:04:11 GMT
It will be the same as the flu jab then, older, vulnerable, etc, although I think anyone can get the flu jab at a small cost. The Gov were hedging their bets on the Covid jab, not all are expected to work well after testing and you may need two of some of them for protection (spaced a few weeks? apart). I've got mine booked next week at a local chemist for £12.99.
I'm not entitled to a free jab, but considering the current situation I thought it sensible.
I understand anyone who wants to get a flu jab this winter.
I am entitled to a free one (pre-existing condition, not age related) but was unable to get one at my doctors as all their slots and vaccine comittment had run out within a few hours of them sending a booking link out.
I tried to get an appointment at two major pharmacy chains, but again they have run out (free or paid is immaterial). I have not received any alert that they are 'back in stock'. Thankfully, my surgery has now made more appointments available (presumably with newly secured vaccine) and mine is now scheduled.
bernythedolt have you contacted your GP surgery to ensure you are on a priority list for new appointments ?
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