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Post by ruralres66 on Mar 13, 2020 12:31:52 GMT
Stonk in 2018 you wrote- "RateSetter (RS) Security of un-invested money with Ratesetter? Nov 10, 2018 at 9:08pm Post by Stonk on Nov 10, 2018 at 9:08pm
Holding Account money is deposited with Barclays Bank. According to RateSetter's FAQ's, the FSCS scheme would refund you if Barclays Bank went bust. There must be some special rules to make this happen, because normally an account owned by RateSetter would not be eligible for FSCS (even if it was, it would only be £85K shared among us all), and I doubt they operate a separate named Barclays account for each of us. But I'm prepared to believe FSCS has a system in place for this kind of situation.
If RateSetter themselves went insolvent, then FSCS is irrelevant. The Holding Account money is ring-fenced as client money, and you'd get it all back. But if, say, the client money had been fraudulently misused and simply wasn't there, then you would join the queue with other creditors to try to get your cash back. With segregated bank accounts and reconciliation, such fraud should be unlikely (I was going to say impossible, but of course it's not impossible)."
Any updates/further thoughts info? My son/husband is asking about, a) what if Barclays are in difficulties/ going under? b) what if RS is winding down? c) What of our holding account funds with Barclays (if any) is covered by FSCA?
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Post by Stonk on Mar 13, 2020 21:01:39 GMT
As I understand it from RS's FAQ's, any cash you have on deposit -- i.e., in your Holding Account and (probably) unmatched orders -- is held by Barclays and is protected by FSCS. As I said, I'm not sure how this works in practice because obviously RS pool all of our cash into one Barclays account rather than have a separate Barclays account for each user. But the FAQ implies that the FSCS protection would nevertheless work.
So: if Barclays collaped, the contents of your Holding Account should be repaid (up to £85K).
This is as far as FSCS protection can stretch. All other balances -- i.e., money on loan -- are not protected in any way.
If RS wound down in an orderly way, you should still be able to withdraw from your Holding Account. There would be changes in the operation of your account, for instance I'm sure there would be no more RYI-ing and you'd be locked into your loans for their full term. Also, expect some fees to be charged during the wind-down (RS have recently notified about this, and stipulated a maximum fee level which was not too bad).
If RS collapsed in a disorderly way, insolvent, then administrators would take over. Again, you should be able to access your Holding Account money provided it has been deposited as stated in a client money account. Similar to an orderly wind-down, you would probably have to sit out your full loan terms. Rather differently, though, the administrators will be managing the loans and charging a fortune.
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Post by cassiopeia on Mar 17, 2020 11:38:26 GMT
Stonk in 2018 you wrote- "RateSetter (RS) Security of un-invested money with Ratesetter? Nov 10, 2018 at 9:08pm Post by Stonk on Nov 10, 2018 at 9:08pm
"If RateSetter themselves went insolvent, then FSCS is irrelevant. The Holding Account money is ring-fenced as client money, and you'd get it all back.."
Have you a link to this information? I recall asking them this question a few years ago, and Ratesetter were not keen to answer clearly from what I recall!
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Post by Stonk on Mar 17, 2020 13:58:07 GMT
Stonk in 2018 you wrote- "RateSetter (RS) Security of un-invested money with Ratesetter? Nov 10, 2018 at 9:08pm Post by Stonk on Nov 10, 2018 at 9:08pm
"If RateSetter themselves went insolvent, then FSCS is irrelevant. The Holding Account money is ring-fenced as client money, and you'd get it all back.."
Have you a link to this information? I recall asking them this question a few years ago, and Ratesetter were not keen to answer clearly from what I recall!
I say that because it is proper practice for any business handling client money, and I'm fairly sure it is an FCA requirement. I have nothing written in stone.
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