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Post by billy169 on Mar 17, 2020 7:12:30 GMT
Supermarkets are trying to restock in the next few days.. limits will be imposed.
This doesn't stop people making multiple trips. Nor does it allow for the extra wiping requirements of people with certain digestive troubles.
The only solution is for customers to be permitted to buy loo roll only if they can demonstrate genuine actual usage by receiving it in exchange for returning an equivalent quantity of used loo roll. Given the shortages, there would have to be checks that each returned sheet has been used sufficiently.
I know I've been getting higher mpg out of my bog roll recently.
These new £20 notes are rubbish for the job,,the old ones weren't bad.
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Post by m2btj on Mar 17, 2020 7:24:04 GMT
Don't realy understand the rush for bog rolls, given there would appear to be plenty of alternatives.
While the back page of the Daily Mirror might be a last resort, I would have thought that kitchen roll or tissues (both of which appear to be in plentiful supply) would be more than acceptable in a crisis. Also, where have all the eggs gone?
Certainly NOT kitchen roll, or anything even remotely similar, and I suspect that includes tissues too. They're too "fibrous" and don't disintegrate enough and contribute heavily to the fatbergs. It's toilet paper or nothing.My local supermarket had sold out of loo rolls by the time I got there. However, I did manage to salvage the situation by picking up a pack of four Naan breads. They work better than the poppadoms I tried last week.
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Post by agent69 on Mar 17, 2020 9:03:29 GMT
It's toilet paper or nothing.
Nothing? Just a bare hand?
I knew that in some cultures it is customary to eat with a certain hand because the other is for cleaning your bum, but I didn't know it was so literal ... Many years ago I worked in the middle east, and the 'one hand clean for eating and shaking hands' rule certainly existed then.
They use to say there was no substitute for a good flat pebble.
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Post by cb25 on Mar 17, 2020 9:21:13 GMT
It's going to be interesting to see how Boris's "if you're 70+, stay in for 12 weeks" is going to play out in terms of impact on shopping. Supermarkets have nowhere near enough capacity to do home delivery to that number of people. I suspect that if people get together locally, e.g. in a self-help club, and put in a single order for (say) 10 people, the supermarkets will refuse the order because they won't be able to distinguish that order from a single person doing serious stockpiling for themselves. One article I read yesterday reported a supermarket boss saying if you're able to travel to the supermarket, you should do that and not request home delivery.
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Post by Stonk on Mar 17, 2020 10:36:20 GMT
It's going to be interesting to see how Boris's "if you're 70+, stay in for 12 weeks" is going to play out in terms of impact on shopping. Supermarkets have nowhere near enough capacity to do home delivery to that number of people. I suspect that if people get together locally, e.g. in a self-help club, and put in a single order for (say) 10 people, the supermarkets will refuse the order because they won't be able to distinguish that order from a single person doing serious stockpiling for themselves. One article I read yesterday reported a supermarket boss saying if you're able to travel to the supermarket, you should do that and not request home delivery.
Obviously it cannot work. You've suddenly got 8 million people needing (not just desiring) home deliveries, regularly.
The total person-hours required to effect a home delivery is roughly the same as the person-hours of a shopper in the shop. For example, if I need to do a moderate shop, I drive 5 minutes, spend an hour in the shop, and drive another 5 minutes home. If I order a home delivery, I save time but someone spends about the same time walking round the shop picking my order, and then a driver spends time delivering it. There may be some efficiencies of scale, but not a lot. Certainly not a factor of 10, for example.
If you take the person-hours of all over-70s out of the system, those person-hours will have to be replaced by someone else. The current capabilities of the supermarkets' home delivery systems are orders of magnitude short of what will be necessary. It is inescapable. The Government will have to step in and coordinate it. Essentially, it wil be rationing.
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Post by cb25 on Mar 17, 2020 10:41:13 GMT
Stonk I agree with almost everything you say, apart from the need for rationing.
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Post by Stonk on Mar 17, 2020 10:53:04 GMT
Stonk I agree with almost everything you say, apart from the need for rationing.
Rationing, but not severe rationing. We might call it "reasonable rationing".
You'll probably still be able to get what you need, but:
(A) The number of deliveries will be rationed. You won't be able to demand a delivery every 2 days, for example. I don't know what the limit will be, but there must be a limit.
(B) You also won't be able to order excesses of items. When people realise their delivery frequency is restricted, they will try to buy more than their immediate need, risking the availablity to others. This will not be allowed to happen.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Mar 17, 2020 10:55:33 GMT
Rupert Murdoch sells plenty of loo roll which you can read. Don't realy understand the rush for bog rolls, given there would appear to be plenty of alternatives.
While the back page of the Daily Mirror might be a last resort, I would have thought that kitchen roll or tissues (both of which appear to be in plentiful supply) would be more than acceptable in a crisis. Also, where have all the eggs gone?
Kitchen rolls have also disappeared in my supermarket. Half a dozen flannels and a nappy bucket?
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Post by patright on Mar 17, 2020 13:57:27 GMT
Well when I opened this thread I did not think it would be talking only about Toilet Paper If Lendy had paid off what they owe us..we would be able to get a lot of that though
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Post by eascogo on Mar 17, 2020 14:09:48 GMT
It's toilet paper or nothing.
Nothing? Just a bare hand?
I knew that in some cultures it is customary to eat with a certain hand because the other is for cleaning your bum, but I didn't know it was so literal ... Your hard-hitting talk may be giving sensitive souls some digestive problems. My mum had to adapt to the scarcities of WW2. She taught me the benefits of using a flannel for body wash instead of relying on bath or shower. Saves a lot of water. My grandma was a very smart lady and refined the practice by recommending use of two flannels: one for the southern, the other for the northern hemisphere. Anyone still needs loo paper?
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Post by wildlife2 on Mar 17, 2020 15:08:15 GMT
I think if things get too bad over the next year there will be toilet roll drops by drones. 1 roll every 2 weeks for each household, an air raid siren could be sounded so you can grab your roll before the neighbour or their dog gets it. This would also stop any scuffles or shootings at the supermarkets as people start to panic even more
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Post by bernythedolt on Mar 23, 2020 1:47:46 GMT
Nothing? Just a bare hand?
I knew that in some cultures it is customary to eat with a certain hand because the other is for cleaning your bum, but I didn't know it was so literal ... Many years ago I worked in the middle east, and the 'one hand clean for eating and shaking hands' rule certainly existed then.
They use to say there was no substitute for a good flat pebble.
It's taken me six days, but I've finally managed to insert it. Now what?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 9:23:20 GMT
Wealthy enough to invest in P2P but not in a bidet?
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