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Post by keystone on Apr 5, 2020 16:27:50 GMT
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Post by keystone on Aug 11, 2020 17:42:50 GMT
Another wonderful story involving the FCA. Just issue enough legal threats and your laughing. You can understand why the Collateral brothers tried to argue they didn't need authorisation. www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53721017
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Post by agent69 on Aug 11, 2020 19:40:00 GMT
Another wonderful story involving the FCA. Just issue enough legal threats and your laughing. You can understand why the Collateral brothers tried to argue they didn't need authorisation. www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53721017Makes you wonder who would be daft enough to invest in such a scheme.
Entire life savings?, I wouldn't give them next months premium bond winnings
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Post by Greenwood2 on Aug 11, 2020 20:21:28 GMT
Another wonderful story involving the FCA. Just issue enough legal threats and your laughing. You can understand why the Collateral brothers tried to argue they didn't need authorisation. www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53721017Makes you wonder who would be daft enough to invest in such a scheme.
Entire life savings?, I wouldn't give them next months premium bond winnings
By now surely everyone knows crypto currencies are at the very least extremely risky. If the FCA has no authority over them you would hope that would get changed, like bringing P2P into authorisation (although that didn't necessarily go well!).
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Post by duck on Aug 12, 2020 4:26:44 GMT
Col is of course far worse than this story. The FCA found out from their own discussions with the Col brothers and advisors that the register entry was not all that it was cracked up to be. The FCA allowed another £3.8m to be invested in spite of knowing no permissions were in place, this represents something like 20% of the total invested. When the FCA found out about the false entry they quietly changed the register entry themselves* and requested the Col Brothers to remove FCA references from Emails, website etc. When the FCA actually did something (several weeks later) to sort out the mess of their own making they requested** Col to cease carrying out regulated business. A couple of weeks passed and thanks to this forum the FCA found out that the website had been taken down. No warning was issued at any time. The FCA instructed Col to inform investors***, they took no action themselves, needless to say this didn't happen. I've had it confirmed by FOI The FCA did nothing to protect consumers, one of their core remits laid down by Parliament. FOIs requesting how consumers were protected by the FCA remain unanswered The FCA are now trying to further limit their already limited liability (financial) through their consultation. We are concentrating on their duty to protect consumers in our submission. As I have said elsewhere on this forum the timing of this consutation is 'interesting' the Complaints Commissioner has been requesting it for years. * FOI ** FOI *** FOI
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Post by waryinvestor on Aug 30, 2020 12:13:44 GMT
Hi Duck, we sent Complaints against the FCA and Complaints Commissioner re Collateral. Do we need to do the same for each P2P Platform separately to be eligible for Compensation from each of them (if any at all) ?
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Post by duck on Aug 30, 2020 16:45:20 GMT
Hi Duck, we sent Complaints against the FCA and Complaints Commissioner re Collateral. Do we need to do the same for each P2P Platform separately to be eligible for Compensation from each of them (if any at all) ?
The case with Col is clear. Other platforms I can't say. I had an initial look at Lendy (FOIs sent and answered) but IMHO there is a far less clear case there. As a general principal the process is complaint .....complaints commissioner (cc) if not satisfied with FCA response ..... ex-gratia payment suggested by the cc if he upholds your complaint. The FCA then responds to the cc's recommendation. All complaints are dealt with on a case by case basis so if you have complaints about the FCAs actions on more than one platform you should either raise them on one complaint (could be messy and complicated) or raise separate complaints.
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Post by waryinvestor on Aug 31, 2020 9:50:49 GMT
Thanks Duck.
Having gone through my emails I can see that the Complaints Commissioner has given a Final Response to my Complaints to him and has ageed with all the 4 decisions of the FCA (including 2 deferred ones, which is fine) - so it was closed in FCA's Favour without any recommendations.
This included my objection to FCA's choice of preferred Administrator, saying that it was the Court who appointed them ? Well, if the Court had 2 choices - the original corrupt one and the costly & inefficient one, they would rightly choose the 2nd one. So, blaming the Court for the choice of Alternate Admins is Wrong in my opinion and high admin charges is a direct consequence of that. Looks like we are fighting a battle against the system which is impossible to win :-(
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Post by p2psws on Aug 31, 2020 12:05:14 GMT
Because of this post I thought Id better check my emails to see what Ive complained to the FCA about! (theres been so many!)
I can see I complained about their handling of Lendy, FS and Col. Each complaint theyve kept me updated every 6 weeks with "We're deferring complaints until our investigation is completed".
Do I need to do anything else? (ie: complain to the Complaints Commissioner)
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Post by duck on Aug 31, 2020 15:19:03 GMT
...... theyve kept me updated every 6 weeks with "We're deferring complaints until our investigation is completed". Do I need to do anything else? (ie: complain to the Complaints Commissioner) 6 months? No need to approach the Complaints Commissioner at present, apart from keeping an eye on timescales (which he is doing already) his remit doesn't start until the FCA have answered the complaint.
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Post by p2psws on Aug 31, 2020 15:45:45 GMT
...... theyve kept me updated every 6 weeks with "We're deferring complaints until our investigation is completed". Do I need to do anything else? (ie: complain to the Complaints Commissioner) 6 months? Ive just looked again. The actual timescale of updates they have given me are: For Collateral, the Complaints Investigator has said "every 6 months". Her last email to me (received 3/07/2020) said the investigation is 'at an advanced stage'. For FS, the Complaints Investigator has said my complaint is in 'its final stages' and will email me in 6 weeks. For Lendy, the Complaints Investigator has said they wont contact me again until the investigation has been completed.
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Post by GeorgeT on Sept 16, 2020 1:16:31 GMT
I recall that last autumn there was talk of sending a second letter to our MPs about the FCA's spectacular failings in the COL scandal and debacle. Then the general election was called and I think that plan was postponed.
My MP didn't change but others may now have a new MP. Regardless of that, and bearing in mind that there is no collective, COL action group and we need to keep the pressure on from every angle and shout from the rooftops that we aren't going away after suffering from the FCA's most egregious mess up in recent memory, would it be a good idea to send new letters to our MPs now if we haven't already (and I haven't)?
Or would that serve little purpose at the present time?
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Post by duck on Jun 22, 2021 15:45:31 GMT
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Post by JamesFrance on Jun 24, 2021 8:17:37 GMT
A pity that the rest of this is behind the Telegraph's paywall.......
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Post by duck on Jun 24, 2021 10:31:03 GMT
A pity that the rest of this is behind the Telegraph's paywall....... The reason for this article was the publication of the Treasury Committees report on LC&F. I watched all the hearings, the report comes as no surprise. As for AB all I can say is that he was his usual self when he appeared.
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