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Post by df on Jul 24, 2020 20:49:55 GMT
Although communication was very good in the recent few months, I can't recall any significant updates on this garage. On SM, discounts on this loan are historically generous, but now they've turned lower than ever (it seems). Does anyone know the reasons for such a rush to exit this borrower?
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Jul 24, 2020 21:42:50 GMT
Although communication was very good in the recent few months, I can't recall any significant updates on this garage. On SM, discounts on this loan are historically generous, but now they've turned lower than ever (it seems). Does anyone know the reasons for such a rush to exit this borrower? It has as far I know always paid interest on time, yet as you say has invariably traded below par, I have never had a large holding tending to buy and sell on the regular movements. Theoretically it is an area that should be having some difficulty currently, yet seems to plod on so possibly no need to mention them. I would suggest that unless something as yet undisclosed has happened it is just the one most people feel happiest to offload (there are a good few loans to the same business and re buying is not hard). Personally I feel there are several other loans that seem better choices to escape at the current offers. Which only leaves the big questions, was he playing golf and just whipped off a quick update? And do Turkish barbers like to experiment with beard shaping?
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Post by blender on Jul 25, 2020 8:03:24 GMT
I don't think that barbers are yet allowed to shape beards, and a Turkish one who did would probably be deported. These loans were once held down by underwriter discounting. I don't think that any offer over 90% is a rush for the exit - more a sneaking out. If worried about this sector or this borrower, and wishing to stay with Ablrate (where else?) I would agree with VI that other loans might be a good choice, and I would take a good and deep look at how common financial ownership of many loans might one day turn from the current strength into a future weakness.
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Post by p2pfan on Jul 31, 2020 19:12:36 GMT
I, too, have wondered with these A** loans trade at a substantial discount and whether everybody else knows something that I don't?
I imagine one concern lenders may have is the realisable value of the collateral should things go pear shaped with these loans and, on that basis, they look less secure than, for instance, P*'s property loans which are currently trading at c. 101%.
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Post by p2pfan on Jul 31, 2020 19:16:38 GMT
p.s. are these A** loans likely to all be repaid at the same date, whenever that happens to be, or on the provided target dates which are significantly different for each A** loan?
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Post by df on Aug 4, 2020 13:05:03 GMT
p.s. are these A** loans likely to all be repaid at the same date, whenever that happens to be, or on the provided target dates which are significantly different for each A** loan? In the past the ones that matured were restructured from interest only to amortising. I might be wrong, but I can't recall any of them being fully repaid yet. I don't have any particular concern with the company, but in theory the industry will be affected by rising unemployment. I've always kept my holding in A**1 reasonably low, leaving some room for expansion. Now it seems to be a good time to take advantage of attractive discounts, so I tend to reinvest some returns in most discounted A**1s. Probably doing the wrong thing, time will show
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Post by Balder on Sept 1, 2020 15:25:00 GMT
ablrate can you please define "short period" from the Admin Notes on these?
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Post by Balder on Sept 3, 2020 9:44:00 GMT
ablrate can you please define "short period" from the Admin Notes on these? ablrate any response please?
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Post by Balder on Sept 4, 2020 14:27:57 GMT
ablrate can you please define "short period" from the Admin Notes on these? ablrate any response please? Come on ablrate we know you are in - give us a clue or a starter for 10?
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Post by Nomad on Sept 4, 2020 14:57:01 GMT
Come on ablrate we know you are in - give us a clue or a starter for 10? Going rather quiet at ablrate. No reply to an email I sent several days ago.
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Post by ablrate on Sept 4, 2020 15:11:44 GMT
Come on ablrate we know you are in - give us a clue or a starter for 10? Going rather quiet at ablrate. No reply to an email I sent several days ago. Forward it to dbw@ we havn't seen a mail come in. We are preparing an update on all loans presently, it should be out in the next few days. It will detail current business performance and repayment schedules
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Post by withnell on Sept 9, 2020 10:00:29 GMT
ablrate - just a nudge on that update, I see that the cashflows have all been updated to a new profile and the first payment is due in today
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Post by ablrate on Sept 9, 2020 10:15:14 GMT
ablrate - just a nudge on that update, I see that the cashflows have all been updated to a new profile and the first payment is due in today We are working feverishly to get it all out and back trading pronto, sorry for the delay
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Post by n on Sept 10, 2020 7:35:09 GMT
ablrate - just a nudge on that update, I see that the cashflows have all been updated to a new profile and the first payment is due in today We are working feverishly to get it all out and back trading pronto, sorry for the delay I do hope you don't mean that literally!
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Post by ablrate on Sept 10, 2020 7:51:57 GMT
We are working feverishly to get it all out and back trading pronto, sorry for the delay I do hope you don't mean that literally! lol... probably not the best choice of words
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