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Post by blender on Nov 18, 2020 20:55:14 GMT
The argument about development complexity is a distraction from the failure to meet the intentions. 'Right now we have a functioning trade system, the blockchain side of things is working perfectly the first challenge was always going to be mirroring the massive functionality of Ablrate so that the ASMX secondary technology works just as well and surpasses that of Ablrate’s secondary market.' (from the website) Clearly the challenge has not been met in that at present the functionality of the Ablrate SM has not been matched, and we have some basic facilities lost. So why was it launched without meeting its stated objectives - assuming they know what they are doing? a. Can it not be done with the chosen database and so we lose it? b. Was there no intention to match the Ablrate SM in practice? c. Was there a need to launch it before it met the basic functional requirements? d. Did no-one notice that the SM had a sort facility and the ASMX system did not? I can't believe that.
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Post by df on Nov 18, 2020 21:23:11 GMT
d. Did no-one notice that the SM had a sort facility and the ASMX system did not? I can't believe that.
Yes and this is the thing I'm missing. When reinvesting returns, I used to sort by discounts to see if there's anything I might fancy at that end, it's a shame sort facility was not included in ASMX.
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Post by treeman on Nov 19, 2020 22:44:45 GMT
(This is happening on Win10 with both FF and chrome)
ABL site login - Enter login details, press Enter and along comes the carcrash screen. Refresh doesn't help. However, press the browser back button and I go to my dashboard, logged in.
Once in I can't get to ASMX. Blue button does nothing. Button nearer the top causes a popup message 'Could not open Loan Exchange for you'.......
Hitting the little refresh button in the Loan Exchange box goes carcrash too. Last checked time displayed as about 10:10 this morning.
All the other ABL platform buttons/links seem to be doing what I would expect.
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Post by ilmoro on Nov 19, 2020 22:47:33 GMT
Yep, same here Win10 Edge
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Post by Ace on Nov 19, 2020 22:54:01 GMT
They were planning an update today, though it was meant to be at 1pm. Perhaps it didn't go so well.
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Post by p2pfan on Nov 19, 2020 22:56:22 GMT
The argument about development complexity is a distraction from the failure to meet the intentions. 'Right now we have a functioning trade system, the blockchain side of things is working perfectly the first challenge was always going to be mirroring the massive functionality of Ablrate so that the ASMX secondary technology works just as well and surpasses that of Ablrate’s secondary market.' (from the website) Clearly the challenge has not been met in that at present the functionality of the Ablrate SM has not been matched, and we have some basic facilities lost. So why was it launched without meeting its stated objectives - assuming they know what they are doing? a. Can it not be done with the chosen database and so we lose it? b. Was there no intention to match the Ablrate SM in practice? c. Was there a need to launch it before it met the basic functional requirements? d. Did no-one notice that the SM had a sort facility and the ASMX system did not? I can't believe that. Totally agree. D. in particular is a major oversight. As df and many others have also stated, this was a feature I used every day. I can shed some light on the reason these matters weren't implemented, having worked in IT for over 30 years. The model nowadays is to launch software or tool at the stage of it being a "MVP". This stands for Minimum Viable Product. But what it really means is to launch it at Alpha or Beta stage, before it's actually ready. Rather than putting a very high level of thought or attention into creating a product or devoting substantive resources to thoroughly testing it, you save yourself a significant amount of brain power, effort, time and money by launching it as a "rough and ready" half-baked work-in-progress. Then you use the customer, unpaid, to devote their time to beta-testing the product, reporting bugs and deficiencies to you. Based on that feedback, your techies make the fixes after the product has launched. I am at fundamental loggerheads with other IT folk at launching products at this early stage, before they have been obsessively worked on and are worthy of presenting to one's customers, but I can understand the reasoning behind it because it is more profitable to use your customers as unpaid mugs to test your creation and report fixes and enhancements to you, which is what people have been doing in this thread. In all fairness to ASMX, even though it lacks the functionality or user-friendliness of the previous secondary market and I've avoided using it for that reason, it does run smoothly and one can see it had a huge amount of effort put into it. With the improvements that have been identified above, it should become a stellar trading platform.
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blender
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Post by blender on Nov 19, 2020 22:56:44 GMT
Yes, car crash on Edge and old IE. You try to log in and you get the car crash, but you have actually logged in. Close down and reopen and you are straight in. ASMX has been cancelled by atrelbA. Edit: Yes, ASMX is going to be world-beating.
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Post by brianlom1 on Nov 19, 2020 23:10:28 GMT
Same issues in google chrome - car crash when accessing ablrate.com and asmx 'could not open'
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Post by nick on Nov 20, 2020 8:04:26 GMT
ablrate - still unable to open ASMX this morning with intermittent car crashes when accessing Ablrate.com
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Post by ablrate on Nov 20, 2020 8:27:05 GMT
ablrate - still unable to open ASMX this morning with intermittent car crashes when accessing Ablrate.com Fixed.
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Nov 20, 2020 14:25:33 GMT
ablrate - small point. Since ASMX, clicking the notification bell and then the new note(s) being notified of no longer removes the notification balloon. The 'View All' link has to be clicked in order to get rid of it. IIRC, this same issue arose and was fixed after the new UI was deployed. Win10 - Chrome 87.0.4280.66 / Firefox 55.0b9 deved I have found refreshing the page clears it. I was saving that one for a quiet day.
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Post by blender on Nov 20, 2020 15:38:54 GMT
ablrate - small point. Since ASMX, clicking the notification bell and then the new note(s) being notified of no longer removes the notification balloon. The 'View All' link has to be clicked in order to get rid of it. IIRC, this same issue arose and was fixed after the new UI was deployed. Win10 - Chrome 87.0.4280.66 / Firefox 55.0b9 deved I have found refreshing the page clears it. I was saving that one for a quiet day. Ah! The virtual equivalent of switching it off and then on again.
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Post by westcountry on Nov 20, 2020 21:29:16 GMT
ablrate, a couple of comments on ASMX, after its latest update: Firstly, now when you bid on a loan using Fill-or-Kill with the Market box unticked, ASMX correctly calculates how much it’ll cost so you don’t get anything left over. Whoopee – thank you so much! :-) :-) :-) Please note though that this will not work in Fill-or-Kill with the Market box ticked, or in Market – only in Fill-or-Kill with the Market box unticked. I’ve attached two screenshots (combined into one image) showing this below, in both cases I have zero cash left over after making the trade – be aware ASMX doesn’t show the cash balance when it is £0.00, which is why no balance is visible in the top-left corner of the screenshots. Secondly, now that it is possible to buy loans accurately (as on the old SM), when will the £10 minimum bid limit be removed, please? I’ve found it annoying, when I have under £10 to invest, that I cannot & have to wait/withdraw the balance instead. I remember it was stated that the £10 limit was in place as some people did endless £1 purchases, but now that ASMX will correctly calculate how much of a loan you can buy with no money left over, this shouldn’t be a problem going forward.
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Post by optimist on Nov 21, 2020 13:05:57 GMT
d. Did no-one notice that the SM had a sort facility and the ASMX system did not? I can't believe that.
Yes and this is the thing I'm missing. When reinvesting returns, I used to sort by discounts to see if there's anything I might fancy at that end, it's a shame sort facility was not included in ASMX. Not sure why they couldn't keep the old secondary market screen rather than replacing it with "Existing loans" for now.
Disable the ability to make purchases if needs be, but why not keep the interface we're used to until ASMX works.
I'm not too bothered if it takes longer to purchase - I spend very little time buying compared to checking for problems.
I tend to sort by invested amount and have a quick glance for any paused loans and any low % premium which might indicate a risk or a bargain.
As I weight my investment against return and risk (IMO) I pay more attention to the top lines whereas trying to remember what the number and code is for each loan and then scroll through seven pages of text trying to mentally sort the results is a more taxing memory feat.
What took me 1 minute per day and gave a feeling of confidence in the site now takes me 10 and leaves me unsure whether I've missed somethimg. Looking forward to getting up to the old level of functionallity.
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Post by dh1 on Nov 21, 2020 13:54:28 GMT
This may have been mentioned before but here goes.
In a moment of weakness I took a look at the "chart" on 147. It looked really dull (hooray) compared with the rather busy layout of the rest of the page. I clicked on "month" and explosion in a spaghetti factory time! There in all their glory were a lot of little coloured lines, slightly thicker lines, boxes, boxes with little sticks coming out and a whole other set of rectangles along the bottom. Scroll down a bit and you get more boxes and lines - still nicely coloured, mind.
It's great to see ablrate getting into the spirit of Christmas with all the colours but it is a shame that they don't actually tell you anything.
Hold on... one accidental mouse drift later ... if you hover over the boxes, lines, etc little messages pop up. It turns out that the "chart" tries to show trading prices and volumes, sadly without descending to units or dates (unless you count an unidentifed 8 digit number a date).
The actual information being presented - if I've read the runes correctly - is in fact pretty simple and a chart isn't the right way to go. Just use text instead. With or without colours. Incidentally, the "chart" falls off the foot of the page so there isn't enough room for it anyway... Good candidate for the recycle bin?
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