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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 27, 2023 16:53:25 GMT
Every business is different. I've worked in 6 in multiple sites over 30 years. I've met bullies and I've met committed hard working people at multiple levels. The most successful were kind sensible people who stayed adult throughout any conversation. (Transactional analysis). The worst took a company close to bankruptcy, made every day a nightmare by a drip drip of misery for everyone and finally got sacked for fraud. And yes I had proudly reported him to the group CFO. If Simon MacDonald ( the guy who had to tell Merkel that the Brits had spied on her ) says he bullied, then he was a little  . I'm inclined - very inclined ? - to think that Raab is being disingenuous. The way he has spoken about this post report strikes me very much as someone who is full of himself, and simply does not understand the concept of 'constructive criticism', rather that he thinks the way to get the best out of people is to c**p on them. And/or he simply lacks an understanding or capability of any real people management/interaction skills so doesn't have the ability to operate differently. A few times in my life I have worked for outright bullies either directly or at one level removed. In the line of work I was in with the particular company I was in for a long period, this was not uncommon: the pressure was often quite extreme, and poor managers result in s**t rolling downhill. From international to regional to country to specific line of business. In a workplace environment, there is nothings as corrosive to people's mid and long term performance, mental health, and sometimes physical health as that of bullying behaviour from those in power relative to yourself. Especially where they are first line management, but also when they are further up. How that ultimately impacts organisational performance should be self evident.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 18:14:46 GMT
One of my friends at University went on to run a major part of a London trader. No one seems to have warned HR that he was on the autistic spectrum and incapable of being able to "bond" in anyway. A few years later I met a female friend who had worked for him.
She watched him destroy the business, not because he was not focused or driven, but because he destroyed the spirit of the organisation. My female friend is married to another high achiever autistic person and recognised the symptons and moved her role sideways to work in another part of the organisation. At the end the bank asked her to write a report on how they had ended up losing so much shareholder value.
Was he a bully, almost certainly not, he did not have the ability to see what he was doing. Perhaps Raab sits on the spectrum.
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 28, 2023 13:34:49 GMT
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Post by overthehill on Apr 28, 2023 19:45:54 GMT
There are so many price fixing anti-competitive (removed most of the competition) companies in the UK really struggling so badly with super inflation, soaring energy and fuel costs, high wage demands that they've only managed to increase their profits by 40% since inflation was at 2%. Inflation up 8%, profits up 40% , pretty much explains why inflation is so high.
Why are there so many multi-millionaires and billionaires out there, I just can't figure it out !
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Post by martin44 on Apr 28, 2023 20:22:59 GMT
Every business is different. I've worked in 6 in multiple sites over 30 years. I've met bullies and I've met committed hard working people at multiple levels. The most successful were kind sensible people who stayed adult throughout any conversation. (Transactional analysis). The worst took a company close to bankruptcy, made every day a nightmare by a drip drip of misery for everyone and finally got sacked for fraud. And yes I had proudly reported him to the group CFO. If Simon MacDonald ( the guy who had to tell Merkel that the Brits had spied on her ) says he bullied, then he was a little . I'm inclined - very inclined ? - to think that Raab is being disingenuous. The way he has spoken about this post report strikes me very much as someone who is full of himself, and simply does not understand the concept of 'constructive criticism', rather that he thinks the way to get the best out of people is to c**p on them. And/or he simply lacks an understanding or capability of any real people management/interaction skills so doesn't have the ability to operate differently. A few times in my life I have worked for outright bullies either directly or at one level removed. In the line of work I was in with the particular company I was in for a long period, this was not uncommon: the pressure was often quite extreme, and poor managers result in s**t rolling downhill. From international to regional to country to specific line of business. In a workplace environment, there is nothings as corrosive to people's mid and long term performance, mental health, and sometimes physical health as that of bullying behaviour from those in power relative to yourself. Especially where they are first line management, but also when they are further up. How that ultimately impacts organisational performance should be self evident. And now STEVE BARCLAY. DO YOUR BEST.
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Post by adrianc on Apr 29, 2023 9:50:10 GMT
What you or other lefties may call unpleasant or domineering or short fused, many of us who have spent years in bussiness call hard working , focussed and committed ... Yes, there's a lot of excuses made for appalling, disrespectful, bullying behaviour.
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Post by adrianc on Apr 29, 2023 10:02:41 GMT
One of my friends at University went on to run a major part of a London trader. No one seems to have warned HR that he was on the autistic spectrum and incapable of being able to "bond" in anyway. A few years later I met a female friend who had worked for him.
She watched him destroy the business, not because he was not focused or driven, but because he destroyed the spirit of the organisation. My female friend is married to another high achiever autistic person and recognised the symptons and moved her role sideways to work in another part of the organisation. At the end the bank asked her to write a report on how they had ended up losing so much shareholder value.
Was he a bully, almost certainly not, he did not have the ability to see what he was doing. Perhaps Raab sits on the spectrum.
...and therein lies poor management around him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2023 10:13:53 GMT
bringing home the bacon for a few years is not how to ensure you have an ongoing pig farm
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 29, 2023 17:37:46 GMT
One of my friends at University went on to run a major part of a London trader. No one seems to have warned HR that he was on the autistic spectrum and incapable of being able to "bond" in anyway. A few years later I met a female friend who had worked for him.
She watched him destroy the business, not because he was not focused or driven, but because he destroyed the spirit of the organisation. My female friend is married to another high achiever autistic person and recognised the symptons and moved her role sideways to work in another part of the organisation. At the end the bank asked her to write a report on how they had ended up losing so much shareholder value.
Was he a bully, almost certainly not, he did not have the ability to see what he was doing. Perhaps Raab sits on the spectrum.
Yes, possible that Raab did fall into that category. Its also possible that some of the supposed characteristics of a certain Elon Musk have the same root cause.
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 29, 2023 17:47:21 GMT
Yeh, minor issue with that theory... February - www.independent.co.uk/voices/dominic-raab-bullying-allegations-gina-miller-b2274570.htmlThere is an absolute ton of circumstantial evidence suggesting Raab is a very unpleasant, domineering individual with a superiority complex and a very short fuse. Anybody who is in denial about that really needs to pause and ask themselves if they'd carry the same view if they didn't agree with his politics. Wherever we stand on various issues, we undeniably deserve better politicians. ..... What you or other lefties may call unpleasant or domineering or short fused, many of us who have spent years in bussiness call hard working , focussed and committed ...... however i do agree on your last line. ... oh dear, you really don't get it do you. Bullying has absolutely nothing to do with expectation of being hard working/focussed/committed. If one is not able to distinguish between them that is either because: 1) one is actually looking at the issue through the eyes of inherently being a bully or 2) you haven't worked in sufficient varied environments to come across people in power that are destructive - to individuals, to performance, and ultimately to the organisation - because of their bullying / sociopathic nature or 3) never worked in a business that is actually high performant I love the supposed superiority implied here: you have spent years in business working hard, being focussed and committed. The rest of us haven't - despite the fact that by definition by way being on here we are highly likely to be HNWIs. Not sure how you think we got to that state. That's funny.
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 29, 2023 17:55:35 GMT
bringing home the bacon for a few years is not how to ensure you have an ongoing pig farm oh this ^^ ^^^^^ Just this. Oh how this could apply to my last manager. Why is it that some of the most utterly useless (and unpleasant) managers have an uncanny habit of jumping into situations where their 'unit' were doing well, and can continue doing well for a period, and then have a knack of very quickly moving on as the corrosive impact of their behaviours and utter lack of management skills start to show up in results. Oh, I know how they do it. Because they spend the majority of their time - when not ****ing up the bit of the business they are in charge of - brown nosing and manouvering and looking out for the next opportunity for themselves.
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 29, 2023 18:43:45 GMT
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Post by ilmoro on Apr 30, 2023 23:27:41 GMT
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Post by agent69 on May 2, 2023 11:57:56 GMT
Some time ago I posted a story about the local high school introducing a gender neutral uniform policy, which required girls to wear trousers. Just to prove that other parts of Devon are just as stupid I see Exeter City Council has set itself a target to have fully vegan catering by the end of May. I don't know what percentage of kids have school meals these days, but this lot looks worse than a British Airways meal in economy.
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Post by agent69 on May 3, 2023 9:21:11 GMT
The UK is to ban all cold calls selling financial products as part of a national crackdown on scams.
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