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Post by captainconfident on Jul 31, 2024 23:47:06 GMT
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Post by registerme on Jul 31, 2024 23:56:32 GMT
I find it best to be drunk before tackling such weighty matters too . When my daughter was a nipper at primary school, the teacher asked the kids, "What's the highest number you know?", obviously expecting the little darlings to come back with 100 miss, or one thousand, or maybe ten million... My daughter, being a chip off the old block, stuck up her hand and said "Infinity miss". The teacher deflated her completely by saying "No, infinity isn't a number...anyone else...?". She was probably 8 at the time. I had to console her at home time and tell her she was perfectly correct (in the understanding of an 8 yr old). I was proud of her. She's a quite brilliant PhD now. The junior teacher is probably still a junior teacher. A beautiful answer sir, and I applaud your parenting, but... I'm not 8 .
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Post by bernythedolt on Aug 1, 2024 0:13:12 GMT
I find it best to be drunk before tackling such weighty matters too . When my daughter was a nipper at primary school, the teacher asked the kids, "What's the highest number you know?", obviously expecting the little darlings to come back with 100 miss, or one thousand, or maybe ten million... My daughter, being a chip off the old block, stuck up her hand and said "Infinity miss". The teacher deflated her completely by saying "No, infinity isn't a number...anyone else...?". She was probably 8 at the time. I had to console her at home time and tell her she was perfectly correct (in the understanding of an 8 yr old). I was proud of her. She's a quite brilliant PhD now. The junior teacher is probably still a junior teacher. A beautiful answer sir, and I applaud your parenting, but... I'm not 8 . Sorry... it was the Grand Hotel paradox and its discussion on the meaning of infinity which reminded me of my daughter's earliest brush with the concept. I wasn't meaning to talk down to anybody, especially one as erudite as your good self.
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Post by captainconfident on Aug 1, 2024 0:22:01 GMT
Get a room you two!
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Post by bracknellboy on Aug 1, 2024 6:15:54 GMT
... My daughter, being a chip off the old block, stuck up her hand and said "Infinity miss". The teacher deflated her completely by saying "No, infinity isn't a number...anyone else...?". She was probably 8 at the time. ..... She's a quite brilliant PhD now. The junior teacher is probably still a junior teacher. Awful teaching behaviour. Or should I say, awful teacher, as that isn't "teaching" at all. Hopefully the junior teacher isn't still a junior teacher, but is no longer in teaching: so they can't bring such poor skills to bear down on further young generations. It recalls a very similar experience I had at around the same age. It has never left my memory. I do hope she went back to visit that teacher, stick her thesis under their nose, and remind them of that day. Which of course the teacher will have not the slightest recollection of.
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Post by adrianc on Aug 1, 2024 7:42:03 GMT
The dictionary definitions of "liberal" include "willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas" and "respecting and allowing many different types of beliefs or behaviour"There's worse insults.
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Post by keitha on Aug 1, 2024 8:39:38 GMT
this www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cql8nz4nyp7onot often a judge is asked to rule if a child exists The psychotherapist said the ex-wife had visited her at home in February this year, accompanied by a toddler who called her “Mummy”.
The ex-wife said none of this was true, and that her former partner was pursuing this case to hurt her, as a form of coercive control.
why would the psychotherapist lie
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Post by michaelc on Aug 1, 2024 16:34:46 GMT
I didn't realise that the leading nation of the "free world", where you need to have a credit card to receive medical care, huge piles of cash to run for offices of state now requires you to have large amounts cash to prove your innocence even if you reside in the UK. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ng14j5vqpo
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Post by bernythedolt on Aug 1, 2024 16:59:18 GMT
We talk about global equality quite glibly, yet I'm pretty certain you wouldn't actually welcome it. The vast majority of the world is far worse off than you and there's an awful lot of them. The poorest 50% of the world population own 2% of total net wealth, the next 40% own 22%. You fall in the 10% at the top of the pyramid. If the pyramid were squashed flat, meaning we had true global equality, you'd end up with a total net wealth of probably somewhere around £78k to your name, including your property and everything else.
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Post by captainconfident on Aug 1, 2024 17:19:48 GMT
We talk about global equality quite glibly, yet I'm pretty certain you wouldn't actually welcome it. The vast majority of the world is far worse off than you and there's an awful lot of them. The poorest 50% of the world population own 2% of total net wealth, the next 40% own 22%. You fall in the 10% at the top of the pyramid. If the pyramid were squashed flat, meaning we had true global equality, you'd end up with a total net wealth of probably somewhere around £78k to your name, including your property and everything else. 'Equality' has more meanings than 'global equality'. In fact that is a proposition that I have heard nobody proposing let alone AI. It is not a proposition that would interest me as people are free to add as many children as they want to the pile needing 'equality'. My view is that what is needed to solve the problem of the humans is a ton of birth control pills.
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Post by bracknellboy on Aug 1, 2024 17:43:40 GMT
We talk about global equality quite glibly, yet I'm pretty certain you wouldn't actually welcome it. The vast majority of the world is far worse off than you and there's an awful lot of them. The poorest 50% of the world population own 2% of total net wealth, the next 40% own 22%. You fall in the 10% at the top of the pyramid. If the pyramid were squashed flat, meaning we had true global equality, you'd end up with a total net wealth of probably somewhere around £78k to your name, including your property and everything else. 'Equality' has more meanings than 'global equality'. In fact that is a proposition that I have heard nobody proposing let alone AI. It is not a proposition that would interest me as people are free to add as many children as they want to the pile needing 'equality'. My view is that what is needed to solve the problem of the humans is a ton of birth control pills. actually, lifting the poorest out of the worst of poverty, and providing education particularly for girls, has a massive impact on fertility rates. Always has and always will. It doesn't need anything close to equality of $$ wealth to achieve massive improvements. And equality of wealth is never ever going to happen: whether intra country or inter country.
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Post by bernythedolt on Aug 2, 2024 11:33:58 GMT
So now I'm confused. If not global equality of wealth, then what exactly do people mean by "equality"? It's easy to spout the word, preaching sagely about its unfairness, usually in some virtue-seeking context, we've heard it for years, but what exactly is it calling for?
If it's considered acceptable that some in the system are to be left financially poorer than others, as outlined above, then it follows axiomatically that they will be disadvantaged in other matters of equality, such as equality of healthcare, or equality of opportunity. For example, they won't be able to pay for the better private healthcare or better private education that other, wealthier people can afford.
Just what are we supposed to make of this holy grail, this nebulous concept of "equality"?
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Post by adrianc on Aug 2, 2024 11:43:37 GMT
So now I'm confused. If not global equality of wealth, then what exactly do people mean by "equality"? It's easy to spout the word, preaching sagely about its unfairness, usually in some virtue-seeking context, we've heard it for years, but what exactly is it calling for? If it's considered acceptable that some in the system are to be left financially poorer than others, as outlined above, then it follows axiomatically that they will be disadvantaged in other matters of equality, such as equality of healthcare, or equality of opportunity. For example, they won't be able to pay for the better private healthcare or better private education that other, wealthier people can afford. Just what are we supposed to make of this holy grail, this nebulous concept of "equality"? Equality of opportunity, or equality of outcome? They're very different. The first is relatively straightforward to understand, and shouldn't be that controversial a concept to anybody, although full implementation is not quite so straightforward - but we can at least try. The second, far less so, to the point of impossibility. There's no reason that international co-operation can't start dismantling some of the more egregious global barriers to equality of opportunity before anywhere's fully reached it locally or nationally, of course.
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Post by bracknellboy on Aug 2, 2024 12:41:50 GMT
So now I'm confused. If not global equality of wealth, then what exactly do people mean by "equality"? It's easy to spout the word, preaching sagely about its unfairness, usually in some virtue-seeking context, we've heard it for years, but what exactly is it calling for? If it's considered acceptable that some in the system are to be left financially poorer than others, as outlined above, then it follows axiomatically that they will be disadvantaged in other matters of equality, such as equality of healthcare, or equality of opportunity. For example, they won't be able to pay for the better private healthcare or better private education that other, wealthier people can afford. Just what are we supposed to make of this holy grail, this nebulous concept of "equality"? Well firstly, who is actually talking about "Global Equality" ? I'm not sure that there is any political movement that talks about "global equality" in the terms you are suggesting i.e. all people across the globe are made equal in wealth. Or even equal in opportunity in the sense you have described (that a person in country A should have the same opportunity to access say advanced health care as a person in country B). There are movements that push the equality agenda globally, and they may refer to "Global Equality" (e.g. www.globalequality.org/index.php). But what they are talking about is promoting and pushing for equality principles to be adopted globally. That is not the same or even has any remote relation to any idea of levelling up/levelling down globally, or even within country, as you have implied. The predominantly (universally?) accepted meaning of "Equality" is "equality of opportunity". That is the same meaning you will find in pretty much any EDI training. It encompasses the concepts of "no discrimination on the basis of race/religion/gender/sexual orientation/disability" etc - in UK law what is referred to as "protected characteristics". That means both direct discrimination but also perhaps the less obvious forms of discrimination such as indirect discrimination, discrimination arising from disability, harassment, victimisation etc. I can't really answer where your confusion comes from because I don't know where you got the idea that the principle of equality meant anything like you have suggested.
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Post by moonraker on Aug 2, 2024 15:36:17 GMT
It didn't "amuse"me so much as bemuse me, but there's an article on my local news website about a transgender woman speaking out about the hate she has received since coming to the town, being verbally and physically abused on many occasions. Accompanying it are photos of her face and in a short dress showing shapely legs. Visually I would have thought her a female from birth, and she has a striking appearance. So why publicise the fact that she is transgender and invite more abuse?
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