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Post by captainconfident on May 27, 2024 8:37:48 GMT
Even if sensationalised down a little bit, even 6 or 8 hours is crazy. Presumably the numbers are in the same ballpark for both sides - maybe worse for the Ukr as the Russians have more shells. Yes that is what I thought. The Colonel said on his podcast something like "I have been told from my sources (in the pentagon) that the current estimate for the life expectancy on the line of contact with the Russians for a Ukrainian soldier in Kharkiv is 3 hours". I was like ?!? I googled it and it seems the amount of time you are going to live on the front lines is hours not days. Terrible. Lets go with the estimate that Ukraine has 500 000 active soldiers. And a low estimate that they deploy 3000 to the Kharkiv front line. If their life expectancy is average 3 hours, then thats 1000 dead per hour, 24 000 per day. So the Ukrainian army will all be dead in 20.8 days.
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Post by angrysaveruk on May 27, 2024 8:45:18 GMT
Yes that is what I thought. The Colonel said on his podcast something like "I have been told from my sources (in the pentagon) that the current estimate for the life expectancy on the line of contact with the Russians for a Ukrainian soldier in Kharkiv is 3 hours". I was like ?!? I googled it and it seems the amount of time you are going to live on the front lines is hours not days. Terrible. Lets go with the estimate that Ukraine has 500 000 active soldiers. And a low estimate that they deploy 3000 to the Kharkiv front line. If their life expectancy is average 3 hours, then thats 1000 dead per hour, 24 000 per day. So the Ukrainian army will all be dead in 24.8 days. I would assume that only a small percentage are actually in direct contact with the Russian Army where I would imagine they are under a massive barrage by things such as the horrific Soviet Thermobaric weapons - which seems to be the Russians weapon of choice for clearing out soldiers who are dug in. My interpretation is that if you are a soldier in direct contact with the Russians (ie where you are exchanging fire, not artillery) you have 3 hours life expectancy. Of course I hope these estimates are wrong.
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Post by adrianc on May 27, 2024 8:47:45 GMT
Andrew Bridgen. The man who's said the Covid vaccine is the worst genocide since the holocaust, and who joined Lozza Fox's political party for ten minutes. Says the man who thinks Croatia and 13 other countries have been more influential in the fight against Russia than our islands. I have to wonder what tune you will sing if bombs start landing on British towns and villages. You're funny. Barking, but funny.
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Post by k6 on May 27, 2024 11:45:49 GMT
Lets go with the estimate that Ukraine has 500 000 active soldiers. And a low estimate that they deploy 3000 to the Kharkiv front line. If their life expectancy is average 3 hours, then thats 1000 dead per hour, 24 000 per day. So the Ukrainian army will all be dead in 24.8 days. I would assume that only a small percentage are actually in direct contact with the Russian Army where I would imagine they are under a massive barrage by things such as the horrific Soviet Thermobaric weapons - which seems to be the Russians weapon of choice for clearing out soldiers who are dug in. My interpretation is that if you are a soldier in direct contact with the Russians (ie where you are exchanging fire, not artillery) you have 3 hours life expectancy. Of course I hope these estimates are wrong.Scaremongering while pretending pittance. Manipulation . . . nice try, Ivan.
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Post by angrysaveruk on May 27, 2024 12:08:19 GMT
I would assume that only a small percentage are actually in direct contact with the Russian Army where I would imagine they are under a massive barrage by things such as the horrific Soviet Thermobaric weapons - which seems to be the Russians weapon of choice for clearing out soldiers who are dug in. My interpretation is that if you are a soldier in direct contact with the Russians (ie where you are exchanging fire, not artillery) you have 3 hours life expectancy. Of course I hope these estimates are wrong.Scaremongering while pretending pittance. Manipulation . . . nice try, Ivan. To anyone with an IQ over 100 it is pretty obvious Russia have won this war and the only thing that is going to happen is a large number of Ukrainian civilians are going to be dragged off the streets and put on the front line to be killed. That is why negotiations with Russia should happen as soon as possible. It would be interesting to know if you were one of the poor bastards being shipped off to the front line to be blown to pieces whether you would be so bellicose about this war with Russia?* * - I already know the answer to this question even if you do not.
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Post by michaelc on May 27, 2024 12:16:00 GMT
Says the man who thinks Croatia and 13 other countries have been more influential in the fight against Russia than our islands.I have to wonder what tune you will sing if bombs start landing on British towns and villages. You're funny. Barking, but funny. At least provide some evidence? You have already stated the top line. My evidence is your own post which seemed to suggest the UK's contribution to Ukraine's war effort is not at the top of the list. Oh, or is it the second sentence you find funny. I sure as heck don't.
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Post by k6 on May 27, 2024 12:35:32 GMT
You're funny. Barking, but funny. At least provide some evidence? You have already stated the top line. My evidence is your own post which seemed to suggest the UK's contribution to Ukraine's war effort is not at the top of the list. Oh, or is it the second sentence you find funny. I sure as heck don't. www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/But you do understand that there could be much more that is not mentioned so you will never get the exact numbers. Also saying UK could be bombed is plain scaremongering and a pure russian propaganda
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Post by michaelc on May 27, 2024 13:33:19 GMT
At least provide some evidence? You have already stated the top line. My evidence is your own post which seemed to suggest the UK's contribution to Ukraine's war effort is not at the top of the list. Oh, or is it the second sentence you find funny. I sure as heck don't. www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/But you do understand that there could be much more that is not mentioned so you will never get the exact numbers. Also saying UK could be bombed is plain scaremongering and a pure russian propaganda This was discussed up thread. p2pindependentforum.com/post/493265/threadAs for scare mongering it might be what my comrades in Moscow want us to think but that is irrelevant as to whether there is any truth in it. Ask yourself why so many pro-western UK generals etc and now government are talking up the prospect of conscription? Ask also what it means to go to war with Russia. Its not a few talibs hanging around with AKs over their shoulder. Missiles would rain down in great quantity over our cities. We would be unlikely to respond with a convential attack with nuclear so what happens next and how long does it take to go nuclear? And in the mean time regardless of the fact they to would be in a lousy position being attacked by NATO, we'd also be in a catastrophic situation. Or do you think you can declare war on Russia and and expect to not be hit back?
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Post by ilmoro on May 27, 2024 13:47:28 GMT
Scaremongering while pretending pittance. Manipulation . . . nice try, Ivan. To anyone with an IQ over 100 it is pretty obvious Russia have won this war and the only thing that is going to happen is a large number of Ukrainian civilians are going to be dragged off the streets and put on the front line to be killed. That is why negotiations with Russia should happen as soon as possible. It would be interesting to know if you were one of the poor bastards being shipped off to the front line to be blown to pieces whether you would be so bellicose about this war with Russia?* * - I already know the answer to this question even if you do not. I would certainly agree that Russia is winning currently ... but then they were winning before and then werent - and would accept that it will be difficult for the Ukr to turn things around. A large number of Russians have equally been put into the frontline to be killed (and I suspect dragged of the streets in some cases - conscription will always have its avoiders and in a totalitarian state due process isnt likely to be followed). I havent seen a large amount of evidence of heavy use of thermobaric weapons (ok a cursory look) ... tends to get reported ... not something that gets used in contact zones as they are somewhat unpredictable, more for troop concentrations & logistic hubs ... main weapons being used to deal with strongpoints are glidebombs of which Russia has huge stockpiles ... widely considered to be one of the gamechangers in the conflict over recent months -even the Beeb has mentioned them.
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Post by angrysaveruk on May 27, 2024 15:49:38 GMT
To anyone with an IQ over 100 it is pretty obvious Russia have won this war and the only thing that is going to happen is a large number of Ukrainian civilians are going to be dragged off the streets and put on the front line to be killed. That is why negotiations with Russia should happen as soon as possible. It would be interesting to know if you were one of the poor bastards being shipped off to the front line to be blown to pieces whether you would be so bellicose about this war with Russia?* * - I already know the answer to this question even if you do not. I would certainly agree that Russia is winning currently ... but then they were winning before and then werent - and would accept that it will be difficult for the Ukr to turn things around. A large number of Russians have equally been put into the frontline to be killed (and I suspect dragged of the streets in some cases - conscription will always have its avoiders and in a totalitarian state due process isnt likely to be followed). I havent seen a large amount of evidence of heavy use of thermobaric weapons (ok a cursory look) ... tends to get reported ... not something that gets used in contact zones as they are somewhat unpredictable, more for troop concentrations & logistic hubs ... main weapons being used to deal with strongpoints are glidebombs of which Russia has huge stockpiles ... widely considered to be one of the gamechangers in the conflict over recent months -even the Beeb has mentioned them. Despite of all the BS we have been told the Russians have a lot of advanced military technology, but the Soviet TOS flame thrower is one of the most terrifying in my opinion and from what I understand has been used extensively in this conflict. The Colonel has said on a number of occasions it is a terrifying weapon: :
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Post by ilmoro on May 27, 2024 16:16:36 GMT
I would certainly agree that Russia is winning currently ... but then they were winning before and then werent - and would accept that it will be difficult for the Ukr to turn things around. A large number of Russians have equally been put into the frontline to be killed (and I suspect dragged of the streets in some cases - conscription will always have its avoiders and in a totalitarian state due process isnt likely to be followed). I havent seen a large amount of evidence of heavy use of thermobaric weapons (ok a cursory look) ... tends to get reported ... not something that gets used in contact zones as they are somewhat unpredictable, more for troop concentrations & logistic hubs ... main weapons being used to deal with strongpoints are glidebombs of which Russia has huge stockpiles ... widely considered to be one of the gamechangers in the conflict over recent months -even the Beeb has mentioned them. Despite of all the BS we have been told the Russians have a lot of advanced military technology, but the Soviet TOS flame thrower is one of the most terrifying in my opinion and from what I understand has been used extensively in this conflict. The Colonel has said on a number of occasions it is a terrifying weapon: : Certainly been used & terrifying but there arent that many of them - about 45 were in service at the start of the war and nearly 50% of them have been lost it appears - Ukraine has a few which it has used. As I said difficult to find evidence of extensive use. The Russians tend to promote their use (& the Ukrainians - and when they go bang). Meanwhile the Ukr are now extensively using thermobaric munitions on drones it appears.
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Post by registerme on May 27, 2024 16:17:19 GMT
Russia had about 45 of them at the start of the war, and are estimated to have lost 20 odd. Which isn't that surprising given that they are lightly armoured, have incredibly volatile ammunition, have a maximum range of 10km, and take a long time to reload. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOS-1EDIT: Cross-posted with ilmoro .
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Post by k6 on May 27, 2024 16:20:35 GMT
This was discussed up thread. p2pindependentforum.com/post/493265/threadAs for scare mongering it might be what my comrades in Moscow want us to think but that is irrelevant as to whether there is any truth in it. Ask yourself why so many pro-western UK generals etc and now government are talking up the prospect of conscription? Ask also what it means to go to war with Russia. Its not a few talibs hanging around with AKs over their shoulder. Missiles would rain down in great quantity over our cities. We would be unlikely to respond with a convential attack with nuclear so what happens next and how long does it take to go nuclear? And in the mean time regardless of the fact they to would be in a lousy position being attacked by NATO, we'd also be in a catastrophic situation. Or do you think you can declare war on Russia and and expect to not be hit back? More scaremongering and exaggeration
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Post by Ace on May 27, 2024 16:24:40 GMT
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Post by angrysaveruk on May 27, 2024 16:39:20 GMT
The Colonel is an American Patriot and War Hero, but like anyone who thinks for themselves is considered to be a Heretic by the followers of the globalist death cult.
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