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Post by alender on May 9, 2023 18:21:58 GMT
Auto withdraw process means that even if you have very little funds in your account AC will withdraw them for you and get the additional £5 fee from lenders each month. I don't understand what you are trying to say here. I haven't seen any mention of a £5 fee. Have you misunderstood the proposed £5 minimum withdrawal amount? You are right, misread the email, I guess I was expecting new and innovative ways for AC to take more lender funds, hope I have not given them more ideas.
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Post by crabbyoldgit on May 11, 2023 7:49:39 GMT
As I read there is no £5 fee, however I can imagine some silly old git , sounds like but is not me , withdrawing every time 17p worth of interest enters account and as there is a manual element to the operation a silly cost which we will end up paying. I withdraw start of every month the loss of interest from transfer to another account would be pennys.
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Post by overthehill on May 12, 2023 14:55:55 GMT
People who were taken in by Assetzcapital until the spin unwound and the facade burst have my condolences. There's been an agatha christie book of clues for some time now and highlighted by many others in this forum.
I'm left with 400 of 'secure loans' and 500 certainty of loss defaults, I had 20k invested at one point. When it comes to P2P, if in doubt GET OUT.
Correction Notice : 200 of 'secure loans' , 200 of defaulted 'secure loans' and 500 certainty of loss defaults.
My loan selecting has always been incomprehensibly poor with AC, worse than any other P2P company. Ah wait...
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on May 12, 2023 18:36:47 GMT
People who were taken in by Assetzcapital until the spin unwound and the facade burst have my condolences. There's been an agatha christie book of clues for some time now and highlighted by many others in this forum.
I'm left with 400 of 'secure loans' and 500 certainty of loss defaults, I had 20k invested at one point. When it comes to P2P, if in doubt GET OUT.
Correction Notice : 200 of 'secure loans' , 200 of defaulted 'secure loans' and 500 certainty of loss defaults.
My loan selecting has always been incomprehensibly poor with AC, worse than any other P2P company. Ah wait...
I assume, given there are only 309 live loans (269 in AA) that there is double counting for multiple accounts. Given that after 10 years the default rate (by number) is less than 6% I would be surprised if that increased to 16% as you suggest ... certainly agree that if you hit 50% defaults your loan selection is extremely poor. Time for a new adage ... the only thing certain in life is death, taxes & P2P losses
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Post by iRobot on May 12, 2023 20:08:47 GMT
Correction Notice : 200 of 'secure loans' , 200 of defaulted 'secure loans' and 500 certainty of loss defaults. My loan selecting has always been incomprehensibly poor with AC, worse than any other P2P company. Ah wait...
I assume, given there are only 309 live loans (269 in AA) that there is double counting for multiple accounts.
Given that after 10 years the default rate (by number) is less than 6% I would be surprised if that increased to 16% as you suggest ... certainly agree that if you hit 50% defaults your loan selection is extremely poor.
Time for a new adage ... the only thing certain in life is death, taxes & P2P lossesI'd assumed there were 3 £-signs missing!
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jun 1, 2023 9:48:22 GMT
Rough numbers, due to a certain level of estimating AA holdings, and no guarantee I havent made errors
As of May 31
Capital outstanding £118.4m
Free Cash £9.3m
Outstanding funding commitments £6.8m
Loans 266 Default 41 (NB includes 6 where holding is nominal) £15m Arrears 15 (includes 4 where arrears are nominal which is just annoying - nominal arrears have been switched to capital which a cynic might suggest is so AC can claim the fee in full) - Repaid 5 (plus 1 today)
Capital repaid £3.4m v scheduled £11.3m
Drawdowns £767k v scheduled £2.1m
Cash flow +£2.6m v £9.2m
Interest received c551k representing approx 130% of sum needed to pay 4% before the lender fee
(NB due to the previous month end falling on a weekend/BH there are a considerable number of April payments made in May - this will likely distort the interest payment calcs)
Not expecting AA interest to be much better than last month ... about 2.4%
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Post by bob2010 on Jun 1, 2023 10:07:00 GMT
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Post by ilmoro on Jun 1, 2023 10:31:42 GMT
Looks like the same old load of drivel to me ... cant actually see some of the changes indicated. Distributions from the AA started in May & there has been no communications to lenders that this isnt continuing given there remains a significant cash surplus over funding requirements ... this looks like the usual AC incompetence. Guess we'll see ... Edit see the left hand isnt talking to the right hand this morning ... as the left hand has redeemed a few loans with interest, before the right hand has calculated the lender fee, so AC have missed a cash grab ... about £5k
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Post by rscal on Jun 1, 2023 15:16:18 GMT
Yes, I spotted this and screen shot it for posterity in another post. Latest: archive.is/yBKatWill we have to wait for the next instalment for AC to spot the other duplication. The one that begins (fittingly) "Unfortunately, it is not possible for us to continue to operate" ha-Ha-haa-HAA! WC is now 5074 from "Over the last year we have.." to "If you have any questions please contact our Investor Team via Live Chat or email enquiries@assetzcapital.co.uk. - December 15, 2022" but the offending paragraph would trim '77' from this.
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Post by bob2010 on Jun 1, 2023 20:24:17 GMT
They've paid 1.9% on QAA for May, which is a effectively a 50% fee. How ridiculous!
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Post by ilmoro on Jun 1, 2023 20:53:27 GMT
They've paid 1.9% on QAA for May, which is a effectively a 50% fee. How ridiculous! Hmm, think I might be requesting a breakdown on that. Im not entirely surprised because of all the catch up payments but given all the nonsense they trotted out in the last update & their general inability to do basic things competently Id to see the working. Doing some very dodgy maths thats about £350,000 in fees, (should be about £240,000pm) which means they have charged the fee on about £145m, so about £50m of loans catching up (allowing for £25m default or non-paying) - seems high to me. Also waiting to see whether they distribute any funds this month ... £2.5m surplus cash ... they never bothered to reply to my previous query on this so might be time for a chase.
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Post by bob2010 on Jun 1, 2023 21:07:14 GMT
They've paid 1.9% on QAA for May, which is a effectively a 50% fee. How ridiculous! Hmm, think I might be requesting a breakdown on that. Im not entirely surprised because of all the catch up payments but given all the nonsense they trotted out in the last update & their general inability to do basic things competently Id to see the working. Also waiting to see whether they distribute any funds this month ... £2.5m surplus cash ... they never bothered to reply to my previous query on this so might be time for a chase. Wishful thinking
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Post by ilmoro on Jun 1, 2023 21:22:00 GMT
Hmm, think I might be requesting a breakdown on that. Im not entirely surprised because of all the catch up payments but given all the nonsense they trotted out in the last update & their general inability to do basic things competently Id to see the working. Also waiting to see whether they distribute any funds this month ... £2.5m surplus cash ... they never bothered to reply to my previous query on this so might be time for a chase. Wishful thinking Dont want it public. I think that actually refers to how they have determined the level of fee they need to charge to raise the cash to run the platform (which would be commercially sensitive) not how they calculate the actual fee itself.
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Post by bob2010 on Jun 1, 2023 21:33:15 GMT
Wishful thinking Dont want it public. I think that actually refers to how they have determined the level of fee they need to charge to raise the cash to run the platform (which would be commercially sensitive) not how they calculate the actual fee itself. It makes no sense. The 2.9% is calculated from the interest being repaid so they're saying that only loans paying on average 4.8% interest was received this month. Is that correct?? I'd be very interested to know if they provide you with the breakdown as every time I've asked I've been referred to the December update and been told that they can't provide the calcs.
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Post by overthehill on Jun 2, 2023 8:12:14 GMT
I'm surprised AssetzCapital don't charge for the toilet paper used by rundown staff , they have been one of the greediest skimmers with the lousiest low returns and shitiest retail P2P behaviour.
Here's a question for chatgpt, invest in their other retail P2P ventures or invest in P2P companies with exemplary and unblemished records ?
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