Human Rights

Lets get to the core of the issue.

We should accept a number of refugees. That number should be proportionate to the number we can reasonably support and more weight should be given to those from countries in which we have been a negative force such as Iraq. The criteria should ultimately be decided by the elected government of the day.

If there is something in the treaty that prevents us from implementing the above, then we should leave the EHCR, adopt all the existing EHCR laws into UK law except the clauses that prevent the above. We should also commit to mirroring the EHCR law as we go forward.

Sadly, I foresee this happening in the next Tory government (the one after Starmer). We will indeed be even more isolated.

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one of my thoughts, and thinking on the Nicholas Rossi case he and his legal advisors argue that sending him back the US would be a breach of his human rights as he could face the death penalty.

IMHO what about the rights of the woman he is alleged to have raped and the domestic violence victims, as i see it he committed the crimes in America where the death penalty can be applied for what he did, therefore he took the risk that a US court could give a death sentence. fleeing to the UK and then using the right to life as a defence against extradition is again in my opinion nonsense.
I take the view that if you commit an act which is a crime in the country in which you commit it, then that country should be able to punish you.

So let's say some stoopid American comes over here and manages to get his guns in, he walks down Oxford street with his AR-15 over his shoulder and his desert eagle in clear view on his hip. an Armed response unit orders him to put the guns down and his only response is the say "I have the right to bear arms, any attempt to take my guns will be met with appropriate force" at which point he take the gun off his shoulder and has it in his hands. My view is at the point the Armed response unit should give him one last chance to put down the weapon and any attempt to move it to a firing position should be met with deadly force.
Would his right to life be removed, yes. Is he in breach of US law probably not it depends on the state. Is he in breach of UK law YES and as such he should face the consequences, and those consequences should include jail time even if he puts down the guns.

Should a US court be able to jail an 18 year old American who has a few beers in a British pub, hell no what he did may be an offence in the US, but it is not a crime in the UK

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/edinburgh-rhode-island-utah-scottish-united-kingdom-b2386311.html

Throughout the June hearing, Mr Bovey attempted to have the case discharged as his client is wanted for questioning about an alleged rape in England.



He also claimed Rossi was not brought before a sheriff within an appropriate amount of time and that he did not receive a crucial document from the National Crime Agency when he was arrested in December 2021 – but all of these applications were turned down by the sheriff.



He said extradition to the US would be a “flagrant breach” of Rossi’s human rights.



Attempts were also made to give more time for Rossi’s mental health to be assessed, but three medical witnesses including psychiatrists Dr Kunal Choudhary and Dr Angela Cogan, as well as Dr Mundweil, said he showed no signs of acute mental illness.