keitha
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Post by keitha on Sept 15, 2023 13:03:47 GMT
we are supposed to split our recycling
into A) Glass, B) metal and Plastic, C) Cardboard, D) Paper, E) Food waste
so last night I dutifully separated it all and had rather a lot of cardboard so I put the extra inside another cardboard box.
get up today and there is a snotagram stuck to the cardboard box saying it's excess waste !
rang the council and they say that because the vehicles are smaller now they can take less waste.
So it's ok for opposite me to fill 2 boxes with beer bottles and cans every week, but because I didn't feel well last week and didn't put the recycling out I get penalised. Also some on my street recycle not at all and everything goes in black bin that's ok.
Suggestion in the snotagram is to put it in my car and take it to the tip myself ( ie do the councils job for them ) and at nearly £1,400 a year on a band A we have nearly ig not the highest council tax in the UK
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Post by bernythedolt on Sept 15, 2023 13:32:52 GMT
Mine is over £3,000 and treated just the same, if not worse.
Black sack waste now reduced to one collection every three weeks (from fortnightly) and from this year onwards we now have to pay an optional additional annual fee if we want the grass cuttings taken.
Their alternative 'solution' is the same as your council's. Either stump up or drive the green waste yourself to the dump. Lots of individuals driving lots of cars to the tip seems massively less ecological than the previous arrangement, but what do I know...
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Sept 15, 2023 14:00:24 GMT
I had the same attitude when a few years ago I put out the frame of a canvas covered wardrobe, the metal was too thick for the machinery so I should take it to the tip. at that time the tip was an hour round trip once you factor in time on site and nearly 30 miles. I'm sure that the pollution from 1/2 a gallon of diesel outweighs recycling a pound or 2 of steel.
they've even been snotty about plastic coat hangers with metal hooks
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warn
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Post by warn on Sept 15, 2023 14:14:09 GMT
I solved our excess hangar issue -- every time we went on holiday we'd take a dozen or so in the suitcase and leave them in the hotel wardrobe.
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Post by benaj on Sept 15, 2023 14:47:35 GMT
One collection every 3 weeks? What wheelie bin have you got? 240L? If you are talking about the 140L, the council expects the household to manage black waste below 47L per week?
Well, some councils are very generous with the bin situation. They have bin men to move the wheelie bin for the residents instead of dragging the bin on the road, even 7 to 10 black bins per household for weekly collection. 🤣
Obviously, their size of family is above mr and mrs average in the UK.
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Post by bernythedolt on Sept 15, 2023 15:03:57 GMT
One collection every 3 weeks? What wheelie bin have you got? 240L? If you are talking about the 140L, the council expects the household to manage black waste below 47L per week? Well, some councils are very generous with the bin situation. They have bin men to move the wheelie bin for the residents instead of dragging the bin on the road, even 7 to 10 black bins per household for weekly collection. 🤣 Obviously, their size of family is above mr and mrs average in the UK. Wheelie bins, I remember those.  Our council is still in the dark ages in my little backwater and haven't progressed beyond black sacks. We are permitted three black sacks at each three-weekly collection.
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Post by bernythedolt on Sept 15, 2023 15:06:33 GMT
I solved our excess hangar issue -- every time we went on holiday we'd take a dozen or so in the suitcase and leave them in the hotel wardrobe. I'm impressed by any suitcase that can take a single hang ar, let alone dozens. 
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warn
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Post by warn on Sept 15, 2023 17:42:30 GMT
I solved our excess hangar issue -- every time we went on holiday we'd take a dozen or so in the suitcase and leave them in the hotel wardrobe. I'm impressed by any suitcase that can take a single hang ar, let alone dozens. Swear swear mutter mutter. I usually check everything so carefully. Mind you, it was a very fine claret.
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Post by travolta on Sept 15, 2023 18:05:32 GMT
I tip my dustmen lavishly at Xmas.
My lane is shut all week due to Telcom stuff. so didn't bother to leave it out.
I wondered why my black bin was in the middle of the drive this am .
They had made a special detour, moved the barricade,walked up to the house, carried it back ,emptied it and scuttled back up the lane
Make a friend of yr dustman and.......who know's
My son is in the Vale of Glamorgan .You need a degree (in Cymru) to work out his rota.When ever I visit I take a way a car load.
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Post by benaj on Sept 15, 2023 20:03:10 GMT
one bag every 5 weeks!?
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Post by Ace on Sept 15, 2023 20:44:40 GMT
I have a compost heap for organic waste. I reuse as much as I can. In our area we have one standard wheeliebin for mixed recycling and one for other waste to landfill. They are collected on alternate weeks. There's only me here in the week; two of us at weekends. I put the recycling bin out about 6 times a year, and the landfill bin out about 4 times a year. I'm at a loss to know why practically everyone else in my street puts their bins out every week. It would make the collection round much quicker if they only put their bins out when they were full. I'm assuming most aren't, but I've never checked.
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Post by bracknellboy on Sept 16, 2023 6:49:25 GMT
I solved our excess hangar issue -- every time we went on holiday we'd take a dozen or so in the suitcase and leave them in the hotel wardrobe. I'm impressed by any suitcase that can take a single hang ar, let alone dozens. its a hangar for an RC model, not manned
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Post by crabbyoldgit on Sept 16, 2023 7:33:32 GMT
The landfill bin is no issue , 1/2 a bin a fortnight. But the green bin is entirely Amazon dependant, a few huge cardboard containers for a few small items and it's full. Me and the neighbors share spare space on collection day. Though must say bin men very accommodating, if you get stuck a cardboard box of cardboard provided it's easy and safe to carry by hand always goes. only no no is broken glass mixed with in with intact glass in glass box , then it's all rejected , no snotty gram just not picked up.
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Post by bracknellboy on Sept 16, 2023 7:56:53 GMT
Too much separation of recycling is a major disincentive to recycle: mixed doorstep recycling collection should be the norm.
That said, people should also treat recycling as a civic duty, not a chore they are doing for the benefit of the council in conflict with an "entitlement" they have to chuck all their **** into landfill. Here food waste collection was introduced maybe 18 months ago, and the amount of entitled ranting about it in the local online community groups was 'enlightening'.
Door step glass collection seems to be unusual, probably because it was one of the first recycling initiatives and there are bottle banks all over the place: no special trips needed when you can drop at your local supermarket. Although I had glass doorstep collection in London 15+ years ago (separated from everything else, obviously).
For us, garden waste collection has been a paid for service for many years. And it keeps going up. And when the 'brown bin' reaches end of life you have to buy a new one, as well as paying the annual collection charge. That's my only real gripe.
Here food waste collection is every week (we don't use: have compost heap). Recycling every 2 weeks. Refuse is every 3 weeks. We have 240L bins: our refuse bin is very rarely more than 1/3 full, if that*. On top of this, we also keep pretty much all our 'plastic film' wrapper category which makes its way to the Tesco recycling point.
Given that so little goes into our refuse bin, I've taken to cleaning anything with food residue on before chucking it in the kitchen bin: the kitchen bin only occasionally needs changing in between the 3 week refuse collection cycle. Anything which will get too rank goes straight to the wheelie bin now.
*I can understand family of 4+ with say baby with nappies then 3 weekly collection is a significant problem. But for others, a couple say, it should be easily manageable.
EDIT: And yes, normally if we have excess cardboard then put sensibly beside the recycling bin it gets pickedup.
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Post by bernythedolt on Sept 16, 2023 10:23:46 GMT
Sad old men, discussing their dustbin habits (and I’m as guilty as the next man!) In next week’s thrilling episode of DDD, we discover how to maximise your dishwasher capacity, how much washing up liquid is needed for a typical family bowl, should butter go in the fridge and how long should you leave your washing out on the line. Remember: Domestic Duty Digest... “We pull no punches, we tell it as it is”.
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