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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 29, 2023 17:29:21 GMT
That's enough to buy 32ml of petrol, another 250m driving distance perhaps you've not seen the fuel consumption of my car..Your being a touch optimistic
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 29, 2023 17:33:02 GMT
yes because suppliers bid to reduce usage. so customers on octopus being paid £4 are more likely to make an effort (IMHO) than customers of eon being paid £1 and yes it's exactly the same as last year they pay more than cost to cut usage, I believe it is an incentive that for example should I export 3kWh tonight i will earn £12 paying me is greener than paying a coal powered station to warm up. the alternative if people won't cut usage at times when the grid is under pressure is load shedding ie power cuts this would be based om published lists and dependant on the code on your bill, I'm T so would lose power Thursday 3 hours, Friday 6 hours, saturday 6 hours, sunday 3 hours this would be the stick plus I think Octopus owners genuinely care and have a eco-friendly ethos at their core: so doing their bit to encourage demand reduction when the marginal supply has to be the 'dirtiest' is I suspect not purely financial on their part.
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 29, 2023 17:55:30 GMT
yes because suppliers bid to reduce usage. so customers on octopus being paid £4 are more likely to make an effort (IMHO) than customers of eon being paid £1 and yes it's exactly the same as last year they pay more than cost to cut usage, I believe it is an incentive that for example should I export 3kWh tonight i will earn £12 paying me is greener than paying a coal powered station to warm up. the alternative if people won't cut usage at times when the grid is under pressure is load shedding ie power cuts this would be based om published lists and dependant on the code on your bill, I'm T so would lose power Thursday 3 hours, Friday 6 hours, saturday 6 hours, sunday 3 hours this would be the stick I'm just envious and would have solar panels like a shot, but living on the coast and facing directly into the Atlantic winds funnelled down the Bristol Channel, we get battered by severe winds. Our fences are all vertical hit & miss construction, as a conventional fence panel wouldn't last one season. One neighbour has put a small array on his relatively sheltered garage roof, which has stayed put for now, but wasn't prepared to risk them on his house. Like the gaggle of starving penguins nudging each other off the ice floe, desperate to dive in for fish but equally desperately worried about the presence of a killer seal, we've all been waiting for the first to trial a solar array and risk their house roof  . And one neighbour has just dived in - the first brave enough to do so in the 7 years since our houses were built - and they've been installed about 3 months now. This installation looked really promising, being the first array I've seen with curved baffles on every panel edge, butting tightly up to the roof tiles. Clearly designed to deflect and combat the winds. Interesting... this might be the breakthrough we all need. The recent 'storm' (Ciaran) was its first half-decent test.... and he lost at least one of these baffles straightaway. He must have been heart-in-mouth during that event, once the panels were fully exposed to the moderate breeze. When we get one of our PROPER winds, not that weedy thing they called Ciaran, we'll learn more....
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Post by keitha on Nov 29, 2023 17:56:27 GMT
yes because suppliers bid to reduce usage. so customers on octopus being paid £4 are more likely to make an effort (IMHO) than customers of eon being paid £1 and yes it's exactly the same as last year they pay more than cost to cut usage, I believe it is an incentive that for example should I export 3kWh tonight i will earn £12 paying me is greener than paying a coal powered station to warm up. the alternative if people won't cut usage at times when the grid is under pressure is load shedding ie power cuts this would be based om published lists and dependant on the code on your bill, I'm T so would lose power Thursday 3 hours, Friday 6 hours, saturday 6 hours, sunday 3 hours this would be the stick plus I think Octopus owners genuinely care and have a eco-friendly ethos at their core: so doing their bit to encourage demand reduction when the marginal supply has to be the 'dirtiest' is I suspect not purely financial on their part. probably because Octopus are really the only supplier with innovative tariffs. Flux suits me I can fill the battery at 16P overnight and discharge at flux peak at 27p
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Post by keitha on Nov 29, 2023 17:58:32 GMT
yes because suppliers bid to reduce usage. so customers on octopus being paid £4 are more likely to make an effort (IMHO) than customers of eon being paid £1 and yes it's exactly the same as last year they pay more than cost to cut usage, I believe it is an incentive that for example should I export 3kWh tonight i will earn £12 paying me is greener than paying a coal powered station to warm up. the alternative if people won't cut usage at times when the grid is under pressure is load shedding ie power cuts this would be based om published lists and dependant on the code on your bill, I'm T so would lose power Thursday 3 hours, Friday 6 hours, saturday 6 hours, sunday 3 hours this would be the stick I'm just envious and would have solar panels like a shot, but living on the coast and facing directly into the Atlantic winds funnelled down the Bristol Channel, we get battered by severe winds. Our fences are all vertical hit & miss construction, as a conventional fence panel wouldn't last one season. One neighbour has put a small array on his relatively sheltered garage roof, which has stayed put for now, but wasn't prepared to risk them on his house. Like the gaggle of starving penguins nudging each other off the ice floe, desperate to dive in for fish but equally desperately worried about the presence of a killer seal, we've all been waiting for the first to trial a solar array and risk their house roof . And one neighbour has just dived in - the first brave enough to do so in the 7 years since our houses were built - and they've been installed about 3 months now. This installation looked really promising, being the first array I've seen with curved baffles on every panel edge, butting tightly up to the roof tiles. Clearly designed to deflect and combat the winds. Interesting... this might be the breakthrough we all need. The recent 'storm' (Ciaran) was its first half-decent test.... and he lost at least one of these baffles straightaway. He must have been heart-in-mouth during that event, once the panels were fully exposed to the moderate breeze. When we get one of our PROPER winds, not that weedy thing they called Ciaran, we'll learn more.... you can get built in panels now that form the roof
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 29, 2023 18:08:48 GMT
you can get built in panels now that form the roof Thanks, I was aware. adrianc and others have linked to them in the past. We agreed the cost is likely to mean it's something to do when needing a complete re-roof, but probably not before. My neighbour who's a builder/developer says the same thing - cost prohibitive unless doing a re-roof anyway.
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Post by keitha on Nov 30, 2023 17:03:28 GMT
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Post by michaelc on Dec 1, 2023 14:14:49 GMT
Did my first Octoplus "saving session" couple of days ago. For a while it said something like "calculating your octopoints....". Now, I can't find that and can't seem to see how much if anything I saved for that hour and a half.
Does anyone know where I can see that info?
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Post by keitha on Dec 1, 2023 15:06:34 GMT
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Post by Greenwood2 on Dec 1, 2023 15:21:28 GMT
Does all the jumping through hoops save more than having cheap night time electricity? Are there any figures for how much an average person saves?
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Post by michaelc on Dec 1, 2023 15:51:35 GMT
Thanks Keith. Still says calculating.....
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Post by keitha on Dec 1, 2023 16:41:28 GMT
Does all the jumping through hoops save more than having cheap night time electricity? Are there any figures for how much an average person saves? £4 a kWh tonight is the saving, I have cheap overnight electric as well at 16P, many users on Go / intelligent at sub 10P overnight are taking part. I think the average last year was about £25 Personally I earned £118 earnings this year so far, £19 in the 2 sessions by discharging part of my battery, the "Live" session on Wednesday I earned over £15 as "Live" sessions are paying more and last longer. if the remaining 10 sessions ( 12 was the minimum quoted ) are all test sessions at 1 hour, I anticipate making nearly £90. so yes IMHO its worth the messing about. the alternative from next year when there are no coal stations to come online to help is scheduled power cuts. the irony is that at 14:00 today my battery was full and I was exporting to the grid, but what I exported then doesn't help now
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Post by Greenwood2 on Dec 1, 2023 20:10:10 GMT
Just did a calculation it seems we are up about £6 a week because of the overnight rate.
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Post by keitha on Dec 2, 2023 11:04:36 GMT
Hecky thump you must use a lot of lecky
My Bill including standing charge is £8-£9 a week less if weather is good.
for me £31 this week is nearly a months bill covered
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Post by jontyab on Dec 5, 2023 10:08:01 GMT
Likewise looks like a window tonight 17:30-18:30 announced there, likely to be raised by Octopus etc shortly
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. And one neighbour has just dived in - the first brave enough to do so in the 7 years since our houses were built - and they've been installed about 3 months now. 
