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Post by bracknellboy on Jun 21, 2024 16:39:16 GMT
the Audacity of Nick Adderley to wear a Falklands medal when you were 15 at the time, to say your brother gave you it ( that makes it ok to wear does it ) - I was given my grandfathers medals from the first world war I certainly wouldn't wear them. In this case an expert says the medal is 110% not genuine. But even if its a replacement you wear another persons medals on the right side of your cheat your own are worn on the left. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqq74pg1evovery interesting at the bottom of the article "Mr Adderley is also under investigation at his former force, Staffordshire Police, over allegations of fraud in relation to the maintenance of police vehicles."deserved to be sacked and I also think he should lose at least a chunk of his taxpayer funded pension It certainly isn't automatic (which in fairness is probably right). T Can my pension be forfeited?
Yes but only in very limited circumstances. Regulation K5 of the Police Pension Regulations allows forfeiture in the event of you being convicted of Treason or for an offence which involved the abuse of your position as a police officer or bringing the Service into disrepute. The final decision rests with the police authority and can be forfeited in whole or in part, permanently or temporarily.
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Post by michaelc on Jun 23, 2024 21:06:50 GMT
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Post by bracknellboy on Jun 24, 2024 5:38:37 GMT
I was going to paste the same link yesterday, under the title "****ing Religion - Again". But then saw you had already posted. The slightly longer answer to your question (or one answer) is: - Religion - Themselves via their blind obedient faith in their religion and the necessity of the rituals that go around it - The money grabbers who take advantage of the religiously gullible: and in this particular case it would seem, if the reports are correct, that particularly includes those who have been selling false tickets/packages to these (the majority have been made up of such cases, as I understand) - given the beliefs of the poor unfortunates, when looked through their eyes I guess God would be a prime candidate In other times - and boy have there been plenty of other similar times at the Hadj - then I'd have amended the 3rd to major on the Saudi authorities. But they don't seem to have been so directly responsible in this case. Oh, and then given that close to the entire world has been struggling with historically high temperatures: all of us, living and dead, due to our contribution to global warning
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Post by adrianc on Jun 24, 2024 7:07:30 GMT
Not one day - Hajj is five days, 8th to 12th of Dhul Hijjah, the 12th month of the Islamic calendar - which is the 14th to 19th June this year.
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Post by benaj on Jun 24, 2024 7:35:19 GMT
I was going to paste the same link yesterday, under the title "****ing Religion - Again". But then saw you had already posted. The slightly longer answer to your question (or one answer) is: - Religion - Themselves via their blind obedient faith in their religion and the necessity of the rituals that go around it - The money grabbers who take advantage of the religiously gullible: and in this particular case it would seem, if the reports are correct, that particularly includes those who have been selling false tickets/packages to these (the majority have been made up of such cases, as I understand) - given the beliefs of the poor unfortunates, when looked through their eyes I guess God would be a prime candidate In other times - and boy have there been plenty of other similar times at the Hadj - then I'd have amended the 3rd to major on the Saudi authorities. But they don't seem to have been so directly responsible in this case. Oh, and then given that close to the entire world has been struggling with historically high temperatures: all of us, living and dead, due to our contribution to global warning according to the scriptures, that’s what the “son of god” hate those money grabbers. I attended to a service held in a place of worship yesterday, about 66% seated. only about 5% of people were giving donation, and the place is in a bad state, which makes sense, there’s a restoration fund collection box placed somewhere.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jun 24, 2024 8:34:29 GMT
I was going to paste the same link yesterday, under the title "****ing Religion - Again". But then saw you had already posted. The slightly longer answer to your question (or one answer) is: - Religion - Themselves via their blind obedient faith in their religion and the necessity of the rituals that go around it - The money grabbers who take advantage of the religiously gullible: and in this particular case it would seem, if the reports are correct, that particularly includes those who have been selling false tickets/packages to these (the majority have been made up of such cases, as I understand) - given the beliefs of the poor unfortunates, when looked through their eyes I guess God would be a prime candidate In other times - and boy have there been plenty of other similar times at the Hadj - then I'd have amended the 3rd to major on the Saudi authorities. But they don't seem to have been so directly responsible in this case. Oh, and then given that close to the entire world has been struggling with historically high temperatures: all of us, living and dead, due to our contribution to global warning according to the scriptures, that’s what the “son of god” hate those money grabbers. I attended to a service held in a place of worship yesterday, about 66% seated. only about 5% of people were giving donation, and the place is in a bad state, which makes sense, there’s a restoration fund collection box placed somewhere. I am deeply and profoundly NOT religious (I don't like the word irreligious), and very much an atheist. However, it is a fact of life that churches (in this country) are part of our historical fabric / heritage. They are also peaceful spaces. When I am out cycling, (or hiking for that matter), I will regularly make a point of going into churches* and am inclined to make some contribution to restoration funds where they are being asked for. *if they are accessible of course.
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Post by agent69 on Jun 24, 2024 8:44:28 GMT
I guess you would say the Saudi authorities for failing to put into place a safe environment to carry out the event. If it had happened in a western country the HSE would close the event down.
Provided it's not locals getting killed I suspect that the Saudis don't really care. And lets not forget there have been previous years with more deaths and nothing changes.
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Post by michaelc on Jun 24, 2024 12:08:31 GMT
"1300 dead in first week of London Olympic games due to health and safety"
Just can't imagine that. If such a thing happened on such a massive, massive scale it'd bring the government down here.
To BB, may I suggest you are more religious than you think you are. You're clearly comfortable going inside a church and even donating (albeit for reconstruction). I suspect you wouldn't know if you were welcome or not inside a mosque or temple and therefore wouldn't try to gain entry and donate.
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Post by adrianc on Jun 24, 2024 12:31:31 GMT
To BB, may I suggest you are more religious than you think you are. You're clearly comfortable going inside a church and even donating (albeit for reconstruction). I suspect you wouldn't know if you were welcome or not inside a mosque or temple and therefore wouldn't try to gain entry and donate. I've been into mosques in the UK (including attending a funeral) and quite a few other countries...
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Post by michaelc on Jun 24, 2024 12:59:16 GMT
To BB, may I suggest you are more religious than you think you are. You're clearly comfortable going inside a church and even donating (albeit for reconstruction). I suspect you wouldn't know if you were welcome or not inside a mosque or temple and therefore wouldn't try to gain entry and donate. I've been into mosques in the UK (including attending a funeral) and quite a few other countries... Funeral or as a tourist is hardly the same thing as just rocking up on an afternoon and walking in by yourself
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Post by adrianc on Jun 24, 2024 13:28:21 GMT
I've been into mosques in the UK (including attending a funeral) and quite a few other countries... Funeral or as a tourist is hardly the same thing as just rocking up on an afternoon and walking in by yourself Umm, why is looking round a mosque or synagogue as a tourist not the same thing as looking round a church or cathedral as a tourist?
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Post by benaj on Jun 24, 2024 13:31:12 GMT
Last summer, I enjoyed stopping by a village where I used to study. I visited a St Mxxx near a local farm shop just beforeI got the local cheese and wine. The place is empty and peaceful. Fortunately, the place is well looked after and doesn’t require big restoration project.
I bought a CD sung by local pupils via donation machine, and listened the music on the way driving back to London.
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Post by michaelc on Jun 24, 2024 13:35:54 GMT
Funeral or as a tourist is hardly the same thing as just rocking up on an afternoon and walking in by yourself Umm, why is looking round a mosque or synagogue as a tourist not the same thing as looking round a church or cathedral as a tourist? Lol - so I was right about the tourist bit. You're hardly a big visitor of Mosques are you? My point to BB was that he would likely feel more comfortable in a church than a mosque probably because like most people brought up here some years ago, we went there every so often as a kid whether or not our family were overt christians . Why is that so controversial for you?
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Post by adrianc on Jun 24, 2024 13:38:04 GMT
Umm, why is looking round a mosque or synagogue as a tourist not the same thing as looking round a church or cathedral as a tourist? Lol - so I was right about the tourist bit. You're hardly a big visitor of Mosques are you? Nor of churches, except as a tourist. It isn't. Why do you think it is? I'm just saying I don't find visiting a mosque or synagogue as a tourist uncomfortable, either.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Jun 24, 2024 13:42:22 GMT
Umm, why is looking round a mosque or synagogue as a tourist not the same thing as looking round a church or cathedral as a tourist? Lol - so I was right about the tourist bit. You're hardly a big visitor of Mosques are you? My point to BB was that he would likely feel more comfortable in a church than a mosque probably because like most people brought up here some years ago, we went there every so often as a kid whether or not our family were overt christians . Why is that so controversial for you? I have been to several Mosques as a tourist, but not in this country, probably because I don't know of any historic Mosques here. Whereas historic Churches are everywhere.
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