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Aug 4, 2024 14:38:28 GMT
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adrianc
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Aug 4, 2024 15:48:30 GMT
Post by adrianc on Aug 4, 2024 15:48:30 GMT
What's to say? It's a bunch of beered-up halfwits looting Greggs because they want to believe blatant lies that appear to have been started by a Russian-linked media channel.
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michaelc
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Aug 4, 2024 16:03:13 GMT
Post by michaelc on Aug 4, 2024 16:03:13 GMT
What's to say? It's a bunch of beered-up halfwits looting Greggs because they want to believe blatant lies that appear to have been started by a Russian-linked media channel. LOL - so its all Russia's fault in your eyes?
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Aug 4, 2024 16:04:54 GMT
Post by k6 on Aug 4, 2024 16:04:54 GMT
What's to say? It's a bunch of beered-up halfwits looting Greggs because they want to believe blatant lies that appear to have been started by a Russian-linked media channel. LOL - so its all Russia's fault in your eyes? definitely not excluded
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adrianc
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Aug 4, 2024 16:09:38 GMT
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michaelc
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Aug 4, 2024 16:19:04 GMT
Post by michaelc on Aug 4, 2024 16:19:04 GMT
Yeah its reporting the same nonsense that the Daily Mail is so what. Nobody, but nobody (except a few liberals) believe this is anything other than the likes of people like Tommy Robinson whipping up a bit of anti-immigration sentiment. Those like Dear Lovey and yourself must have a deathwish.
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Post by angrysaveruk on Aug 4, 2024 16:38:51 GMT
It seems to be pretty violent although the scale is thankfully pretty small. Starmer will probably use his influence to make sure the courts and police come down very hard on the rioters and organisers - which may inflame the situation further.
Although it looks inevitable now, I hope there is not a major conflict in the Middle East and if there is I hope Starmer has the common sense to stay out of it or minimise UK involvement for the sake of social stability in the country.
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Aug 4, 2024 16:51:48 GMT
Post by agent69 on Aug 4, 2024 16:51:48 GMT
Yeah its reporting the same nonsense that the Daily Mail is so what. Nobody, but nobody (except a few liberals) believe this is anything other than the likes of people like Tommy Robinson whipping up a bit of anti-immigration sentiment. Those like Dear Lovey and yourself must have a deathwish. But he's on holiday in Cyprus
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adrianc
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Aug 4, 2024 17:02:08 GMT
Post by adrianc on Aug 4, 2024 17:02:08 GMT
Nobody, but nobody (except a few liberals) believe this is anything other than the likes of people like Tommy Robinson whipping up a bit of anti-immigration sentiment. Tommy Two-Names Yacketty-Lenin doesn't even have the cojones to return to the country for his court appearance, preferring to use his EU passport to take advantage of free movement and the right to be an immigrant. But he's a distraction, a vacuous figurehead and useful idiot. Let's turn the question around, shall we? Why do you think it inconceivable that Moscow is funding this with the aim of destabilising the UK? Do you deny that C3N provided one of the initial sparks, despite it being well-documented? Do you find it inconceivable that C3N - a Pakistan-based channel that started off showing Russian-language videos - might be a propaganda shill? Do you also find it impossible to believe Moscow are/were funding Farage/Brexit/Reform? And quite likely fellow travellers across the rest of Europe? Do you also find it impossible to believe Moscow are/were funding Trump? I'd say they were getting a fairly decent return on investment, tbh. The role of twix in amplifying and disseminating these demonstrably false claims about the Southport attacker is clearly undeniable. And here we are now, with you posting a link that says Musk thinks wider issues are "inevitable". Well, perhaps he could do something to prevent that, then? Although... www.wsj.com/podcasts/tech-news-briefing/elon-musk-is-posting-a-lot-about-russia-thats-got-experts-worried/c5b30874-7be1-4119-85d7-0888426f3e6f
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Aug 4, 2024 17:07:53 GMT
Post by agent69 on Aug 4, 2024 17:07:53 GMT
It seems to be pretty violent although the scale is thankfully pretty small. Starmer will probably use his influence to make sure the courts and police come down very hard on the rioters and organisers - which may inflame the situation further. Although it looks inevitable now, I hope there is not a major conflict in the Middle East and if there is I hope Starmer has the common sense to stay out of it or minimise UK involvement for the sake of social stability in the country. But Labour are committed to reducing the prison population via an early release programme.
The problem with rioters is the same as many other criminals in society (for example shop lifters). They commit crime because the chances of getting caught are slim and the likely punishment is trivial. If it was me I would make a loud announcement to disperse and if people are aggressive towards police after that then start shooting them. Bring back the good old days of 'looters will be shot on site'.
You wouldn't have to shoot too many befor they got the message and behaved. Society is just too soft on people that break the law.
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Aug 4, 2024 17:10:57 GMT
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michaelc
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Aug 4, 2024 17:19:14 GMT
Post by michaelc on Aug 4, 2024 17:19:14 GMT
Must be Putin eh??? Not one of his 50,000 mates....
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Aug 4, 2024 17:22:48 GMT
Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Aug 4, 2024 17:22:48 GMT
What's to say? It's a bunch of beered-up halfwits looting Greggs because they want to believe blatant lies that appear to have been started by a Russian-linked media channel. True. And the right wingers are nearly as bad. The police should just let them at each other, why should they be put at risk? Better still give them some rubber bullets to play with, or even real ones......
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Aug 4, 2024 17:37:12 GMT
Post by adrianc on Aug 4, 2024 17:37:12 GMT
Must be Putin eh??? Not one of his 50,000 mates.... If you think his handful of slack-jawed knuckle-dragging followers are really chucking big money at him, I've got a bridge to sell you. It certainly won't be direct... They aren't quite that stupid. No, it'll be channelled through a variety of third parties - and, yes, it'll come from a variety of other sources, many of which are intertwined. For a start, the same sort of US conservative right that's enabling the middle east have been proudly providing lucrative funding for years - www.meforum.org/7292/mef-organizes-25000-strong-protest-in-supportAnd if you're about to say "But I thought Putin was on Iran's side?"... He was on both sides, because the instability works nicely for him, but he's burned his bridges more recently. www.brookings.edu/articles/what-is-russias-role-in-the-israel-gaza-crisis/This is all very definitely intertwined. These lackwits are just the pawns being thrown away.
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Aug 4, 2024 17:47:12 GMT
Post by angrysaveruk on Aug 4, 2024 17:47:12 GMT
It seems to be pretty violent although the scale is thankfully pretty small. Starmer will probably use his influence to make sure the courts and police come down very hard on the rioters and organisers - which may inflame the situation further. Although it looks inevitable now, I hope there is not a major conflict in the Middle East and if there is I hope Starmer has the common sense to stay out of it or minimise UK involvement for the sake of social stability in the country. But Labour are committed to reducing the prison population via an early release programme.
The problem with rioters is the same as many other criminals in society (for example shop lifters). They commit crime because the chances of getting caught are slim and the likely punishment is trivial. If it was me I would make a loud announcement to disperse and if people are aggressive towards police after that then start shooting them. Bring back the good old days of 'looters will be shot on site'.
You wouldn't have to shoot too many befor they got the message and behaved. Society is just too soft on people that break the law.
Dont tell Starmer about your ideas about how to enforce public order, for some reason I think he might agree with you.
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