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Post by elljay on Dec 28, 2013 10:11:40 GMT
Fourteen days till the first loan reaches its term. Wonder whether the borrower will redeem or the goods will be sold...
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Post by mikes1531 on Dec 28, 2013 14:43:38 GMT
Fourteen days till the first loan reaches its term. Wonder whether the borrower will redeem or the goods will be sold... I didn't get in that early, so I have two months before my first loan comes to term. I'd therefore be most interested to learn what happens with that first loan.
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Post by andy2001 on Dec 28, 2013 22:59:50 GMT
Didn't invest in that one but did have a small amount on loans with 21,23,23,and 29 day to go.
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Post by bugs4me on Dec 29, 2013 10:03:28 GMT
Fourteen days till the first loan reaches its term. Wonder whether the borrower will redeem or the goods will be sold... Does the borrower have the option to 'roll over' the loan in the event of non-redemption?
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Post by mrclondon on Dec 29, 2013 12:08:33 GMT
Does the borrower have the option to 'roll over' the loan in the event of non-redemption? According to the FAQ the borrower has to give 20 days notice if intending to renew the loan to allow time for re-validating the valuation and arranging the listing. That time period was obviously set on the cautious side ... in practise of course we would fund the (small) loan in a matter of minutes, and its likely almost all the original lenders would want to roll the loan forward anyway. If renewal is being planned I guess elljay will hear something on the subject thereof this week. I'm not in this one but am in the 20,22,22,22,28 days remaining batch so there is a good chance that we will know how the renewals process works for real very soon.
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Post by mikes1531 on Dec 29, 2013 20:53:02 GMT
Does the borrower have the option to 'roll over' the loan in the event of non-redemption? According to the FAQ the borrower has to give 20 days notice if intending to renew the loan to allow time for re-validating the valuation and arranging the listing. That time period was obviously set on the cautious side ... in practise of course we would fund the (small) loan in a matter of minutes, and its likely almost all the original lenders would want to roll the loan forward anyway. If renewal is being planned I guess elljay will hear something on the subject thereof this week. I'm not in this one but am in the 20,22,22,22,28 days remaining batch so there is a good chance that we will know how the renewals process works for real very soon. Further to the above, one of the conditions for rolling over a loan is the need to pay the fees and interest accrued to that point. I don't know the sizes of the various loans involved, but with loans of less than £15k the fee is about 2%/month, so after including the interest the borrower would have to come up with a payment of nearly 20% of the amount of the loan in order to roll it over. Whether the original lenders would be happy to roll the loan forward is a good question. Some lenders might be counting on having the proceeds from these loans available so they have funds to settle their tax bills due on 31/Jan. Not that it probably makes a lot of difference whether old lenders continue or not -- there have been enough new lenders joining FS in the last six months that there probably would be no problem funding rollovers from new lenders' funds.
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Post by andy2001 on Jan 5, 2014 21:40:24 GMT
As I said, not on the first loan, but I hear it got paid back on Friday.
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Post by elljay on Jan 6, 2014 7:28:10 GMT
Yup, the loan has been repaid in full, yeay!
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Post by mikes1531 on Jan 6, 2014 13:15:18 GMT
Yup, the loan has been repaid in full, yeay! I suppose 'cheers' are in order, but it would be so much better if there were some live loans available to reinvest the matured money into.
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Post by bugs4me on Jan 6, 2014 13:24:18 GMT
Yup, the loan has been repaid in full, yeay! I suppose 'cheers' are in order, but it would be so much better if there were some live loans available to reinvest the matured money into. No cheers are not in order IMO as you need to be able to roll what is now dead money into something else. I'll hang around and see what happens over the next month otherwise will look elsewhere - after my existing loans have matured.
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Post by elljay on Jan 6, 2014 18:27:25 GMT
FS advise there are four loans on the horizon on their blog.
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Post by mikes1531 on Jan 6, 2014 21:20:47 GMT
FS advise there are four loans on the horizon on their blog. I've had money sitting in my account since before Christmas because I was expecting the second art loan to show up. I'm a bit disappointed it hasn't, and nothing else has either. When I have enough history to try to calculate my actual return, it will be interesting to see how far short of the typical 13% rate on the loans I have managed to get a part of. I'm prepared for my achieved return to be quite disappointing, but sure I hope the dearth of investment opportunities improves very soon. No doubt FS do as well! I expect FS have it on their Wish List, but one thing that would help considerably would be the ability to fund an account very quickly, rather than having to deposit funds in advance of them being needed because deposits seem to need manual handling before being credited to lenders' accounts. An arrangement with GoCardless such as Assetz and SS have, or an arrangement such as Zopa have so that FP'd funds become available in a lender's account very quickly without manual intervention, would be a major improvement and really would help minimise the impact of idle funds on lenders' actual returns.
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Post by andy2001 on Jan 12, 2014 18:06:51 GMT
One loan now has 6 days to go, and two others 8 days, so the default recovery may soon be tested.
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Post by mrclondon on Jan 12, 2014 19:37:58 GMT
One loan now has 6 days to go, and two others 8 days, so the default recovery may soon be tested. Minor correction : "One loan now has 6 days to go, and two three others 8 days, so the default recovery may soon be tested."
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Post by andy2001 on Jan 12, 2014 19:42:02 GMT
I guess that must be one I'm not on. Only have access to those that I bid on.
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