SteveT
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Post by SteveT on Oct 30, 2015 22:56:24 GMT
nick, this is not the case anymore. SS changed the way it operates. Strictky speaking, it IS still the case with all but the very latest loan, until we're told when any of the older loans are also transferred into the new trust structure
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Post by loanstar on Oct 30, 2015 23:24:03 GMT
I have a question regarding moving money out of Faded Chances into RS, FE etc. Rather than have the funds set to my own bank account and then onto another platform is it possible to issue instructions for the funds to be paid from one client account to another? For example FC to pay direct into my RS account. I ask because I have a number of property loans that should repay in the next six months. Its unlikely FC will have anything worth placing the whole amount on straight away. I therefore plan to "park" the money with RS on the monthly mark while I look for a new loner term home. (And before anyone puts forward the idea I already have a full TSB account)
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Post by SteveT on Oct 30, 2015 23:59:25 GMT
I have a question regarding moving money out of Faded Chances into RS, FE etc. Rather than have the funds set to my own bank account and then onto another platform is it possible to issue instructions for the funds to be paid from one client account to another? For example FC to pay direct into my RS account. I ask because I have a number of property loans that should repay in the next six months. Its unlikely FC will have anything worth placing the whole amount on straight away. I therefore plan to "park" the money with RS on the monthly mark while I look for a new loner term home. (And before anyone puts forward the idea I already have a full TSB account) I believe not. As part of their standard account security, Financially Challenged check that the bank account details you enter match those they already hold on file for your account.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Oct 31, 2015 8:04:40 GMT
I agree with that. However Free Credit usually get the money to your account next working day, and if you pay RS by debit card you can add cash instantly, and have it leave your bank 2-3 days later. Better than having FC send it to RS, unless it is too large for a debit card transaction (in which case ring your bank first).
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Post by jamesc on Oct 31, 2015 14:06:41 GMT
I have been looking at moving my money to other sites, looked at TC and at first glance looked really good, decent rates, availability of Loans, although need to do more work on looking at the individual loan details but what am I missing ? I also notice compared to other Forum's the TC one is very quiet. Also I invest on SS where at the moment there are no loan opportunities why are people not moving money to TC ?
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Post by bigfoot12 on Oct 31, 2015 14:31:26 GMT
I have been looking at moving my money to other sites, looked at TC and at first glance looked really good, decent rates, availability of Loans, although need to do more work on looking at the individual loan details but what am I missing ? I also notice compared to other Forum's the TC one is very quiet. Also I invest on SS where at the moment there are no loan opportunities why are people not moving money to TC ? TC have their own active forums - yes two of them. No need to hide the name of clients or individual names as they are only open to registered users. (Zopa also has its own active forum, which is why that isn't very popular here either.) TC minimum bid £1,000 in most cases, variable quality of propositions and variable quality and style of document presentation. My guess with no evidence to justify is that if you bid on every loan you would do better than you would autobidding at FC. There are big changes due in the next week or two, including a change in the IT platform and a possible change in ownership. If you are interested I would register, deposit £1,000 and read as much in the forums as you can. (You only get access to one forum after making a deposit.) I would hold off on investing until the changes are made. I would make sure you read as much as you can about Eur***t. This loan which went wrong raises many of the issues of P2B lending in general and with Thin Cats in particular. I have sold most of my loans and taken the money out, but I am waiting to see the changes and I hope to return because they do seem to have a good flow of loans at good rates.
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Post by jamesc on Oct 31, 2015 14:36:09 GMT
Thank you Bigfoot that's really helpful.
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Post by goldservice on Nov 19, 2015 18:36:20 GMT
I have a question regarding moving money out of Faded Chances into RS, FE etc. Rather than have the funds set to my own bank account and then onto another platform is it possible to issue instructions for the funds to be paid from one client account to another? For example FC to pay direct into my RS account. I ask because I have a number of property loans that should repay in the next six months. Its unlikely FC will have anything worth placing the whole amount on straight away. I therefore plan to "park" the money with RS on the monthly mark while I look for a new loner term home. (And before anyone puts forward the idea I already have a full TSB account) I believe not. As part of their standard account security, Financially Challenged check that the bank account details you enter match those they already hold on file for your account. When I tried to withdraw to a different account, Fabulously Conscientious phoned me up within minutes, to my astonishment, to find out what was going on.
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Post by ablender on Nov 19, 2015 18:49:31 GMT
I believe not. As part of their standard account security, Financially Challenged check that the bank account details you enter match those they already hold on file for your account. When I tried to withdraw to a different account, Fabulously Conscientious phoned me up within minutes, to my astonishment, to find out what was going on. So this is an efficient way to attract their attention.
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Post by goldservice on Nov 20, 2015 12:27:19 GMT
I'm really surprised about this "jumping ship" mentality, especially into high risk platforms. Blinded by interest rates rather than looking at the long term risk reduction? We'll see how this plays out. Well, it’s playing out OK for me so far. I jumped ship with half of my Frail Capital and moved it to SS - having looked at AC and ReBS first but rejected them as having too few deals. It’s fairly high interest at 12% and doesn’t look too risky. In fact, when I look at the many defaults that I’ve suffered on Famously Crumbly, and at the first charge on property with max LTV=70% on SS, then it feels less risky. Also, although the deal flow is erratic, SS tells you what’s in the pipeline. I found that the Frantic Clicking skills from the auction climaxes that I had developed were transferable to the buying frenzy that grips the SS SM when a loans pops out of the pipeline and lenders rush to rebalance their loans.
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Post by Financial Thing on Nov 20, 2015 13:13:53 GMT
I'm really surprised about this "jumping ship" mentality, especially into high risk platforms. Blinded by interest rates rather than looking at the long term risk reduction? We'll see how this plays out. Well, it’s playing out OK for me so far. I jumped ship with half of my Frail Capital and moved it to SS - having looked at AC and ReBS first but rejected them as having too few deals. It’s fairly high interest at 12% and doesn’t look too risky. In fact, when I look at the many defaults that I’ve suffered on Famously Crumbly, and at the first charge on property with max LTV=70% on SS, then it feels less risky. Also, although the deal flow is erratic, SS tells you what’s in the pipeline. I found that the Frantic Clicking skills from the auction climaxes that I had developed were transferable to the buying frenzy that grips the SS SM when a loans pops out of the pipeline and lenders rush to rebalance their loans. Nearly all these SS loans are under the old structure so if the platform goes down, well I don't want to scare you.
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Post by markr on Nov 20, 2015 13:29:43 GMT
...moved it to SS - having looked at AC and ReBS first but rejected them as having too few deals. Not a criticism of you, goldservice (as you say SS is serving you well), but this does represent the rose-tinted glasses that seem to be being worn for SS at the moment. Deals on SS look to me to be virtually non-existent (at least as a proportion of funds waiting to invest in them); at the time I bailed out of SS I reckoned that the amount of time one could actually invest money in SS amounted to less than half an hour per month, and even if you happened to be around during one of the tiny windows between a new loan appearing and it being gobbled up, it was pot luck if the website actually let you in. The likelihood of logging in at one's convenience and being able to invest were essentially zero. For someone with a life outside of P2P, that's not a model that works for me. Ironically, I see that users on the SS board are now complaining about unsporting use of bots, plus ca change.
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Post by Financial Thing on Nov 20, 2015 13:32:48 GMT
...moved it to SS - having looked at AC and ReBS first but rejected them as having too few deals. Ironically, I see that users on the SS board are now complaining about unsporting use of bots, Can you post a link to such a discussion? Would be interested to read.
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Post by SteveT on Nov 20, 2015 13:39:18 GMT
...moved it to SS - having looked at AC and ReBS first but rejected them as having too few deals. Not a criticism of you, goldservice (as you say SS is serving you well), but this does represent the rose-tinted glasses that seem to be being worn for SS at the moment. Deals on SS look to me to be virtually non-existent (at least as a proportion of funds waiting to invest in them); at the time I bailed out of SS I reckoned that the amount of time one could actually invest money in SS amounted to less than half an hour per month, and even if you happened to be around during one of the tiny windows between a new loan appearing and it being gobbled up, it was pot luck if the website actually let you in. The likelihood of logging in at one's convenience and being able to invest were essentially zero. For someone with a life outside of P2P, that's not a model that works for me. Ironically, I see that users on the SS board are now complaining about unsporting use of bots, plus ca change. Have you studied how the SS pre-funding process now works? I don't pay the SM any attention at all these days (other than to sell down loans I wish to diversify out of), simply setting target investments on the pending loans. Couldn't be simpler.
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Post by ablender on Nov 20, 2015 13:50:57 GMT
...moved it to SS - having looked at AC and ReBS first but rejected them as having too few deals. Not a criticism of you, goldservice (as you say SS is serving you well), but this does represent the rose-tinted glasses that seem to be being worn for SS at the moment. Deals on SS look to me to be virtually non-existent (at least as a proportion of funds waiting to invest in them); at the time I bailed out of SS I reckoned that the amount of time one could actually invest money in SS amounted to less than half an hour per month, and even if you happened to be around during one of the tiny windows between a new loan appearing and it being gobbled up, it was pot luck if the website actually let you in. The likelihood of logging in at one's convenience and being able to invest were essentially zero. For someone with a life outside of P2P, that's not a model that works for me. Ironically, I see that users on the SS board are now complaining about unsporting use of bots, plus ca change. It might have been the case for new loans when you were on SS. It is still tricky to get anything on the SM. but that is a bonus for investors as the liquidity of the SM shows that you can get your money out quickly if you need it. Re PM, now there is a pre-fund pipeline which I find very useful and gives a fair chance to everyone.
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