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Post by blender on Jul 22, 2015 9:03:18 GMT
My Dashboard says that my "Next Instalment Date" is 06/07/2015, which is a week ago now. I'm assuming this relates to an overdue payment of "Instant Returns" on the "ATR 42-500 to Government Owned Airline (Refinance)" loan that has yet to complete. Please can you confirm? Also, when do you think that the Dashboard figures will reconcile (ie. the "All Interest Earned" figure operating correctly, and ideally a "Total Account Funds" figure added)? Thanks Hi Stevet We are working on that right now and will have definitive news on the ATR loan as to when the instant returns are paid. The dashboard figures are part of an upgrade we are scheduled to get done this week. We have been working with developers to make sure his is correct now and calculates correctly going forward. The financial statements are correct so we are looking to have those as the drivers for that number, there are also a couple of small updates on the SM that will be going live shortly (dealing with amendments of bids). Regards Ablrate Did this get done? - no. The "instant returns" due on 6th July have still not been paid and the dashboard not corrected. How is Ablrate getting on with allowing those who wish to withdraw their ATR bids after 78 days from close?
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Post by james on Jul 22, 2015 9:15:51 GMT
How is Ablrate getting on with allowing those who wish to withdraw their ATR bids after 78 days from close? Have you phoned them, used the contact form or used email to them yet to ask for it? If not and if you want it, I suggest that you do. For normal withdrawing I've typically had the money in my bank account within a few hours of a request to withdraw so you might even have the money in the bank today if you ask today then do the withdrawing request online. Given that sickness has been the reason for the delay and sickness can recur or last longer than anticipated I suspect that you'll be more comfortable just having it done with than waiting for things to be resolved.
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Post by blender on Jul 22, 2015 10:16:03 GMT
How is Ablrate getting on with allowing those who wish to withdraw their ATR bids after 78 days from close? Have you phoned them, used the contact form or used email to them yet to ask for it? If not and if you want it, I suggest that you do. For normal withdrawing I've typically had the money in my bank account within a few hours of a request to withdraw so you might even have the money in the bank today if you ask today then do the withdrawing request online. Given that sickness has been the reason for the delay and sickness can recur or last longer than anticipated I suspect that you'll be more comfortable just having it done with than waiting for things to be resolved. Albrate are very fortunate to have such supportive lenders as yourself, James. This is not a normal withdrawal, in that the funds are locked into a bid and the bids on this ATR are already shown on the account history as withdrawals. There is nothing much in the account to withdraw. I wish a facility to be provided so that either on the platform or by communication with the Albrate customer service 'team' (what form does that take?) I and others who wish can have their bids returned to their accounts, to use as they wish. And that to be done without compromising the identity on this public forum of anyone who wishes to have their bids returned. That was agreed by Albrate on Monday, but surprisingly not done yet. (Do you see a pattern emerging?) I take no notice of any reasons given for not doing what should be done - especially after 78 days of repeated predictions and promises, with a status of 'awaiting borrower approval'. Do you have any personal additional knowledge about the status of the underwriting other than what is on this forum or the platform? I would say that difficulties can strike any human individual - I could be run over by a bus this afternoon - but that any serious credible business, underwriter or platform operator, should not be reliant on a single individual's attention to conduct its business. How many such named individuals is the completion of this loan reliant on? Do they not all have deputies who can step in? Now put it in the context of a loan which was known to need underwriting from the start, in that Ablrate was never going to raise £2.4M in bids. Adding the 60 days bid period, Ablrate had had 138 days at least to arrange underwriting. The lack of underwriting facilities was never made know to me when I bid, way back in April [see il moro's post below - I may be wrong here]. It is time, or do others think that unreasonable?
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Post by james on Jul 22, 2015 10:23:31 GMT
I think that the lack of linkage that you are asking for is undeliverable because I think that there will be so few requests that it will be readily possible to link information should Ablrate wish to do so. So I suggest that you just get on with asking and put this behind you.
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Post by jonno on Jul 22, 2015 10:36:34 GMT
blender; no,I don't think it's unreasonable. I'm probably somewhere between yourself and james. I maybe naive but I do trust ablrate to eventually pay the accrued interest on this loan, however it has not been handled well and the constant failure to implement promises is becoming increasingly worrying. James is undoubtedly very supportive of this platform but to be fair I was probably in the same position only a couple of weeks ago. I worry that a lot of support is ebbing away on a daily basis and every broken promise just accelerates this, and along with loss of support goes a loss of potential investment money. It's a pity because I for one thought that this platform could have been a successful "stayer",but now I'm far from sure.
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Post by blender on Jul 22, 2015 10:54:50 GMT
I think that the lack of linkage that you are asking for is undeliverable because I think that there will be so few requests that it will be readily possible to link information should Ablrate wish to do so. So I suggest that you just get on with asking and put this behind you. James, are you speaking for Ablrate? I'll take the risk on the numbers of requests. Jonno - thanks. My arguments are about credibility. For the avoidance of doubt I have said nothing about lacking trust in the integrity of Ablrate and its people and its management of our funds. I do trust Ablrate in that way.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 22, 2015 11:21:09 GMT
I think that the lack of linkage that you are asking for is undeliverable because I think that there will be so few requests that it will be readily possible to link information should Ablrate wish to do so. So I suggest that you just get on with asking and put this behind you. James, are you speaking for Ablrate? I'll take the risk on the numbers of requests. Jonno - thanks. My arguments are about credibility. For the avoidance of doubt I have said nothing about lacking trust in the integrity of Ablrate and its people and its management of our funds. I do trust Ablrate in that way. blender - have you actually asked for your funds back, as per the post in feedback, and they havent followed through? I thought that the loan write up stated that there was no underwriting, though I cant check as theyve changed the format, but I remember being surprised at the time given the size of the loan.
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Post by blender on Jul 22, 2015 11:44:17 GMT
blender - have you actually asked for your funds back, as per the post in feedback, and they havent followed through? I thought that the loan write up stated that there was no underwriting, though I cant check as theyve changed the format, but I remember being surprised at the time given the size of the loan. No, I await the general procedure stated five posts further down. I do not wish to connect my forum identity with my Albrate account identity. All lenders should be given the opportunity. You may be right that no underwriting was stated as being arranged - but surely Ablrate would know that it would be required and has had that time to arrange it. It was my first Ablrate loan and so I do not know what happened before on similar loans, if any existed of that size. The point is that you and I knew that underwriting would be necessary, and it was discussed, I believe, in this forum during the bid period. This underwriting discussion is not just about this loan but also those going forward generally. I am no expert but it seems very odd, and a weak position, to go to an underwriter after the bidding rather than before, and say 'we have this 10% funded, would you fund 90% please and have an equal priority charge with the bidders?'
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 22, 2015 11:54:23 GMT
blender - have you actually asked for your funds back, as per the post in feedback, and they havent followed through? I thought that the loan write up stated that there was no underwriting, though I cant check as theyve changed the format, but I remember being surprised at the time given the size of the loan. No, I await the general procedure stated five posts further down. I do not wish to connect my forum identity with my Albrate account identity. All lenders should be given the opportunity. You may be right that no underwriting was stated as being arranged - but surely Ablrate would know that it would be required and has had that time to arrange it. It was my first Ablrate loan and so I do not know what happened before on similar loans, if any existed of that size. The point is that you and I knew that underwriting would be necessary, and it was discussed, I believe, in this forum during the bid period. This underwriting discussion is not just about this loan but also those going forward generally. I am no expert but it seems very odd, and a weak position, to go to an underwriter after the bidding rather than before, and say 'we have this 10% funded, would you fund 90% please and have an equal priority charge with the bidders?' Fair enough. Most loans did have underwriting if I recall. Does seem a bit odd the way its been done. Incidentally Instant returns have now been paid up to date though dashboard is still stuck!
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 28, 2015 12:49:14 GMT
ablrateandy So containers are away, Yay! , which unfortuneately leaves with the elephant in the room again. The ATR! Any update on when this might get sorted once & for all? More than a month since it was a week away, and at least a week since it was days away. Also where are we on fixing the various platform issues, next payment, accrued interest, having to guess offer calcs, inability to amend SM offers. I confess Im not sure what has & hasnt been highlighted anymore. Probably need a thread with a list (somebody must do lists around here )
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Post by unmadem on Aug 14, 2015 10:37:18 GMT
ablrateandy what is happening with ATR 42-500 to Government Owned Airline (Refinance) ?
Edit - spooky timing, webwiz has just asked same question on a separate thread. We must have been typing at the same time. However it does show there is general concern from lenders about lack of progress.
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Post by jonno on Aug 14, 2015 11:03:42 GMT
ablrateandy what is happening with ATR 42-500 to Government Owned Airline (Refinance) ?
Edit - spooky timing, webwiz has just asked same question on a separate thread. We must have been typing at the same time. However it does show there is general concern from lenders about lack of progress. I asked about this on the "Feedback" thread three days ago, but no answer has been forthcoming. This issue is now getting to the point where it is undermining the whole credibility of the platform.
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Post by ilmoro on Aug 14, 2015 11:25:34 GMT
ablrateandy what is happening with ATR 42-500 to Government Owned Airline (Refinance) ?
Edit - spooky timing, webwiz has just asked same question on a separate thread. We must have been typing at the same time. However it does show there is general concern from lenders about lack of progress. I asked about this on the "Feedback" thread three days ago, but no answer has been forthcoming. This issue is now getting to the point where it is undermining the whole credibility of the platform. I tried posting a comment a few weeks back but it got moderated & never appeared, possible too vague as I just asked 'Any news?'
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