registerme
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Post by registerme on Oct 9, 2015 10:23:29 GMT
So... where's your heart at, your head at, and your money at, now that we've seen the launch of fixed rates?
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registerme
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Post by registerme on Oct 9, 2015 10:26:07 GMT
My heart still wants to be able to lend to SMEs in the UK. My head is becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the product offerings (eg fixed rates) and the platform limitations and failings (ratings, mis-ratings, PG valuations, technical failings, recovery process etc). So my money is off.
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arbster
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Post by arbster on Oct 9, 2015 10:30:22 GMT
I've reduced my target total investment, but still haven't reached that revised target, so I'm continuing to invest until I reach that amount. With the proceeds from the sale of rejected WL parts, and the poor pickings on the PM, I don't expect to deposit any new money for a couple of weeks at least, and will be in a stable position well before the end of the year.
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Post by bigfoot12 on Oct 9, 2015 10:31:52 GMT
I ticked the top box, but it doesn't quite describe me fully, as I am returning. I gave FC a whirl a couple of years ago and it was too much effort and auto bid was rubbish. I have now made several deposits and expect to make more. Auto bid is still a very poor tool, but with no auctions to worry about, and being able to set different rates for primary and secondary markets my two biggest concerns are reduced. I hope to earn slightly more than I do on RS.
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SteveT
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Post by SteveT on Oct 9, 2015 10:32:34 GMT
I've stopped all new investment in SME loans, though I'll take a look at the Investment Trust as a "buy and forget" option for my wife's ISA. I've a much smaller account that's Property only and, whilst I've had to draw cash out recently due to the lack of new 2%CB loans, I'll still churn the CB if they start coming through regularly again. Other than that, it's Game Over.
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fasty
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Post by fasty on Oct 9, 2015 10:47:14 GMT
I'm struggling to actually keep money in and earning: - A limited number of loans that I'm prepared to bid on since the new regime - Poor takeup of loans bid (I thought this was supposed to radically improve?) - Many existing borrowers seem to be repaying me early, so the cash is flooding back.
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Post by adrianc on Oct 9, 2015 10:54:07 GMT
I've almost completely wound down anything higher risk, and am now only in A/A+ never-offered-to-WL SME and property. I've not bought any SME for a couple of months now, just property, but haven't withdrawn anything. Any 8% A+ or 9% A property's being stripped and flipped (slowly, at par to autobiddies), anything over that's being kept for the mo.
Slightly surprisingly, my AR has actually risen by doing that. How much of that is due to the flipperage, I'm not sure. My net earnings figure is still slightly below interest - only about 7%, though.
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min
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Post by min on Oct 9, 2015 10:55:55 GMT
Have been gradually reducing amount in FC for over 2 years. Mainly selling off 60 and 48 month loans. Other than property max in any SME is 1 x £20 loan part. Did have 1100 at one time - now down to 720. Still put money in CB property and the odd SME if I like the look of it. That has produced a significantly better return than previously (been with them nearly 4.5 years now). Don't find fixed rates attractive given the number of defaults, lates and RBRs.
Problem with Fancy Cats is that they don't seem to value the investor/lender. We've served our purpose.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Oct 9, 2015 11:12:49 GMT
Dumped all the SME loans (bar RBR/defaults) at start of the year due to unacceptable level of default & poor comms. Have been faffing around with CB property but even thats dwindling now since dearth of 2% stuff. Down to low 3 figures in total now. I would like to invest in SME on principle but not willing to invest in unsecured loans anymore. PG seems to be Personal Getout for borrowers (and, consequently, me) Might take a look at fund.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Oct 9, 2015 11:13:34 GMT
I am not reinvesting payments, and am selling off older (and lower interest rate) loan parts. With the recent A+ default and the A+ loan finishing today which is morphing from an earlier C risk loan, and the fact that rejected whole loans are being dumped on us without FC choosing to point it out to us, and the seeming proliferation of A and A+ gradings on new loans, quite different from the mix before fixed rates, and the fact that fixed rates appear to have been set as low as Fawlty Crowers feel they can get away with, and the fact that FC still deducts 1% from those low rates, and the fact that no provision fund exists - I can do better elsewhere.
Samir .... do you get it? Are you still in those winebars webinars?
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Post by pom on Oct 9, 2015 11:14:02 GMT
For me the fixed rates merely helped me make the decision I was heading for anyway - I got my first loan part at the end of April, met my initial investment target around July, was getting rid of my early low rate parts and was already debating whether the time required was really worth it, had pretty much decided it wasn't but was struggling to kick the habit. Didn't start selling with a vengeance until the auctions dried up, but have got rid of over 70% so far.....and from the way my annualised rate has shot up can see why the flippers loved the old system! Not going to be able to escape completely cleanly as have 19.75 tied up in bad debt, plus I haven't yet decided how aggressively to sell my property loans so its possible I may end up deciding to continue with property or come back later, but at the moment that is highly unlikely. I'd rather spend less time investing larger chunks elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 11:17:39 GMT
Just playing out the "hold and then return cash to the bank" (and then onto other Portals). I struggle with the rates, I feel patronised by the newsletter but that would not stop me investing.
I would probably try to staymore if FC, when it reduced our rates, it had also reduced its own management rates, but since it is now a growing business with 1% of the deal I think it is taking too much for granted. 1% is not a god given right, it needs to be earned and right now it taking too much of the cake.
The more I think about it 1% is what the old time bankers would charge. So 1990s.
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eddie
i have put up with a great deal from the likes of you people, a very great deal....
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Post by eddie on Oct 9, 2015 11:32:42 GMT
there should be a 'going, but miserably waiting for the remains of the sellable investment to dribble thru.' bar on the chart.
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TitoPuente
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Post by TitoPuente on Oct 9, 2015 11:46:34 GMT
I am absolutely not interested in the new fixed rates for A+ to C for unsecured loans (and was never convinced by the 7-10% less fees for property).
I am prepared to consider Ds and Es with a short holding strategy. However, I am unable to compete with the bots and alike. Hence, I am now being forced to withdrawing my growing idle cash and looking elsewhere.
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Post by blender on Oct 9, 2015 11:53:31 GMT
I am still churning property and hope to continue if conditions are right. If I were an SME lender then I would be out.
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