locutus
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Post by locutus on Nov 5, 2015 8:26:10 GMT
The new site is designed to be highly responsive, meaning that you should be able to view and use the site on a large monitor, all the way down to a mobile screen. This is the reason for some increased white space and padding that some people dislike.Your developers are telling porkies. Increased whitespace and padding (especially at the ridiculous levels on the beta site) are not necessary for a responsive website.
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paulgul
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Post by paulgul on Nov 5, 2015 8:44:13 GMT
The new site is designed to be highly responsive, meaning that you should be able to view and use the site on a large monitor, all the way down to a mobile screen. This is the reason for some increased white space and padding that some people dislike.Your developers are telling porkies. Increased whitespace and padding (especially at the ridiculous levels on the beta site) are not necessary for a responsive website. savingstream could I suggest your web site developers talk to the person/company that designed the Moneything web site, their site doesn't suffer from vast areas of whiteness, works very well on mobiles, is fast loading and fully usable on all devices from a desktop to a phone. Your beta site took just over a minute and a half to load on my mobile data connection, may be ok for those that live in large towns and cities with a fast data connection but for those who live in the country where even 3G is a minor miracle your site just doesn't work satisfactory Edit: Forgot to mention, using Firefox on an Android Samsung Tab 3 one or two pages are showing corrupt, with text on top of photos - sorry can't remember which ones now as I was testing it last night in bed and don't have my Tab to hand now.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on Nov 5, 2015 9:31:06 GMT
May have been said before but information is hidden behind to many clicks. For example if I have multiple loan parts for sale I now have to click into each one to find the progress, this is a backward step from the old site where they were all visible. As a general rule you should show as much relevant information as possible at the higher level if you don't the users with multiple loans etc will be the most impacted - possibly hitting the top 20% of your investors.
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Post by registerme on Nov 5, 2015 10:00:48 GMT
It may be worth considering that your user population may tend towards using PC screens more than the typical and as such more consideration should be given to the layout on 1024+Width screens. I agree, but then I figured that SS probably capture user browser data so even though I'm sat in front of two screens running 1900*1200 perhaps I'm in the minority (and I abhor any waste of screen real estate). Assuming I am in the minority could the new site be altered such that the information occurs in the middle of the screen rather than on one side? It's slightly less visually insulting that way .
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dawn
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Post by dawn on Nov 5, 2015 10:13:22 GMT
I agree with the comments so far re layout, spacing, white space, etc. Also don't need large pictures and would love to have pending interest (the old system gives us the grand total for each part - all we need is that minus whatever has been paid out so far - I do this manually in a spreadsheet but it would be nicer to have it as part of the dashboard).
I assume the fact that amounts are available to buy on the repaid loans page is just for testing - obviously you can buy one normally. Also the writing is now huge - I do need reading glasses normally but not on this site - I can read it from across the room.
My Loans - Live loans page / repaid / selling / sold
edited - I have removed my suggestion for re-ordering the headline box and drop-down boxes because it wouldn't work if you have more than one part - I like the fact that multiple parts can be seen under each loan - big improvement.
1) I don't see the need for the rate box (all the loans are 12%) - could replace this with a link to relevant documents instead 2) the piccy could be included in the drop-down box which would improve spacing (and reduce scrolling) when only headline boxes are being viewed. 3) only 6 pieces of information in the headline box and the drop-down box - more could be included, eg interest accrued, etc 4) space above and below text in the boxes could be reduced - too much space for the size of the text
On the sold loanparts page it would be useful to have some of the information from the live loans page if the loan is still live - just in case I may want to buy some back (eg if its term has been extended) - so info like time remaining. Likewise if the whole loan has been repaid it would useful for it to say that
For info - I normally work on a 15" screen laptop. I rarely use a tablet and never use my phone for the internet (although I am told it can do that).
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dawn
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Post by dawn on Nov 5, 2015 10:43:17 GMT
Selling loan part page
1) more info could be included rather than just piccy and name - eg time remaining, etc. I am unlikely to be selling lots at any one time but others may be so the large picture will cause the same problems identified elsewhere re scrolling. 2) info about the test sale I put up said start day today, end day today, interest 0.00, etc - this should have said start 14/9, days held 52 etc, plus amount of interest paid so far (and amount accrued to be paid at the end of the month would be nice).
Overall I would like the appearance of the four pages (live, repaid, selling and sold) to be consistent so I appreciate that things that are very useful on one page may be less so on one of the others. However all four have lots of space that could be better utilized and the large picture - it would be nice to have the choice of turning it off to help scrolling, etc
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ianj
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Post by ianj on Nov 5, 2015 10:51:43 GMT
Initial reaction...... Am I really alone in finding this supposedly 'improved' system so utterly visually ghastly? Very possibly yes, was the conclusion I reached late last night. Even allowing for the fact that I'm quite capable of being more irritable than a bananaless oldgrumpy on a rainy day in the most depressing place you can think of, I expected to see numerous comments on what I was seeing as poor text definition rendering the screen near impossible to read at the low resolution required to maximise data displayed. Reality.....not another dissenting voice to be heard! All my observations leading to my negative feedback were using Firefox (latest version) and Windows XP running on ten year old hardware with a non-standard graphics board. How would things look on my laptop - Firefox (latest version) and Windows 10 running on contemporary, original hardware? Answer...... perfect! Well, at least as far as text definition was concerned. Still have the pointless photos taking up space that could be better utilised, plus the 'oceans of white dessert'. Further experimentation on my stone age desktop reveals that I can improve text definition by disabling 'Allow pages to choose their own fonts instead of my selections' in Firefox Options (Advanced). Unfortunately this change is universal and has unpredictable, sometimes undesirable, effects on other websites. Almost happy now. At least I'm not now put off playing with the system, so rather than
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dawn
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Post by dawn on Nov 5, 2015 10:56:41 GMT
My Account page
1) again everything is very spread out - I would prefer it to be less so - eg Personal details page - it is very easy and clear to get all of that information on one screen without needing to scroll at all - currently lots of scrolling. Same sort of thing for security details, password, etc
2) Transactions statement - first thank you for keeping this in the same order - my (RobberBaron's) spreadsheet relies on that and I'd prefer not to have to redo it - however please remove the amount from the loan part detail column - this information is in the previous column anyway and my spreadsheet searches the transactions spreadsheet for the name of the loan so that I can combine everything for that loan. Having the amount included there is not necessary and will stop my spreadsheet working (see other thread about using Excel to track things - I am not sure how to link to another thread, but if anyone else can, please feel free).
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registerme
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Post by registerme on Nov 5, 2015 11:06:22 GMT
Link requested by Dawn. dawn, the way you link things is to type [ url= ]type in your url here] the text you want, for instance "Link requested by Dawn"[ / url ] without the spaces in the "url" square brackets (which I put in to stop it turning into a link). Alternatively, and perhaps more easily, you can copy paste the URL you want and then click on the link button, the one that looks like a globe with a piece of paper in front of it.
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oldgrumpy
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Post by oldgrumpy on Nov 5, 2015 11:44:00 GMT
I can't even log in to it The login box I get asks for email address and password, not username and password.
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Post by SteveT on Nov 5, 2015 11:48:25 GMT
I can't even log in to it The login box I get asks for email address and password, not username and password. I clicked the first of the 2 links provided by SS in the OP. It begins by asking for the generic SS username and password that are given in the OP. Then you arrive at the beta site and can log in using your own normal email and password.
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dawn
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Post by dawn on Nov 5, 2015 12:03:25 GMT
Link requested by Dawn. dawn, the way you link things is to type [ url= ]type in your url here] the text you want, for instance "Link requested by Dawn"[ / url ] without the spaces in the "url" square brackets (which I put in to stop it turning into a link). Alternatively, and perhaps more easily, you can copy paste the URL you want and then click on the link button, the one that looks like a globe with a piece of paper in front of it. Thank you registerme - very helpful - there is always something new to learn I have also worked out how to link a reply to a specific post - possible enough new skills for one day
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ianj
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Post by ianj on Nov 5, 2015 12:14:03 GMT
It may be worth considering that your user population may tend towards using PC screens more than the typical and as such more consideration should be given to the layout on 1024+Width screens. I agree, but then I figured that SS probably capture user browser data so even though I'm sat in front of two screens running 1900*1200 perhaps I'm in the minority (and I abhor any waste of screen real estate). Assuming I am in the minority could the new site be altered such that the information occurs in the middle of the screen rather than on one side? It's slightly less visually insulting that way . 'Visually insulting' Hits the nail on the head, wish I'd thought of that. Apologies in advance if you find it replicated without the attribution it deserves!
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oldgrumpy
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Post by oldgrumpy on Nov 5, 2015 12:19:40 GMT
I can't even log in to it The login box I get asks for email address and password, not username and password. I clicked the first of the 2 links provided by SS in the OP. It begins by asking for the generic SS username and password that are given in the OP. Then you arrive at the beta site and can log in using your own normal email and password. Got in thanks SteveTI was trying the second link when I failed first time on the first ..... or summat. (I've managed to make the new site get its underwear in a twist already )
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sqh
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Post by sqh on Nov 5, 2015 12:27:52 GMT
How about keeping the original format for large screen/PC users, and having the new "spaced out" format for mobile junkies.
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