ablender
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Post by ablender on Nov 27, 2015 20:33:11 GMT
What? I didn't say anything. It wasn't me.
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Post by nush on Nov 27, 2015 22:26:04 GMT
apparently not
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Post by duck on Nov 28, 2015 6:23:09 GMT
What? I didn't say anything. It wasn't me. My love (and continued professional use) of the sky hook got the better of me but .... I hadn't noticed paulg had beaten me to it.
Mods please delete my post and related 'stuff' to avoid diverting the thread - I hate this when it happens on a forum I'm a Mod on, now I'm causing it!
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Post by chielamangus on Nov 28, 2015 9:18:48 GMT
Can someone please explain this before I rush in and break my head? The security is valued at £1,850,000 (£1,185,000 - assuming misprint) for a loan of £1,295,000. This gives a LTV of 70% The loan particulars say that "There is £1m currently secured against this property." Doesn't this make a total LTV of 124%? I assume thats short term finance being repaid. we have 1st charge You are right, but do you know how much is being repaid, and how much is left over for "improvements" to the house? I do. Now if everyone asked this question of SS they might get fed up with answering it and actually put it on the website.
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Post by ablender on Nov 28, 2015 10:41:16 GMT
I just sent them a Q through Q&A re this one.
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Post by max on Nov 28, 2015 15:57:51 GMT
I assume thats short term finance being repaid. we have 1st charge You are right, but do you know how much is being repaid, and how much is left over for "improvements" to the house? I do. Now if everyone asked this question of SS they might get fed up with answering it and actually put it on the website. How much?
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Post by ablender on Nov 28, 2015 16:07:26 GMT
I do not know. I removed my pre-funding for now, while I wait to hear back. I do not think that SS has the right to decide who needs the info and who not. Nor does the reasoning that if we want the info we will ask stands to scrutiny. Someone might ask a question that I have not thought of. It does not mean that I am not interest or that I do not benefit from the answer. Please SS, treat us as intelligent people. Let us decide what is useful to us and what not. Personally I find any other way offensive.
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Post by savingstream on Nov 28, 2015 18:13:13 GMT
For reference, the borrower will be left with sufficient funds after our costs, PLUS THEIR OWN FUNDS to complete the refurb to a sufficient standard as detailed in the Loan Parts.
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Post by ablender on Nov 28, 2015 18:15:37 GMT
So why not putting this in the Q&A?
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Post by savingstream on Nov 28, 2015 18:18:04 GMT
We are also lending on the valuation as of today, not taking into consideration the uplift in value for the refurb. This is a bridging loan and he can do what he wants with the funds to a degree. We would prefer him to spend the surplus plus his own funds on the refurb but we are content to lend 70% against todays valuation.
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Post by savingstream on Nov 28, 2015 18:18:30 GMT
So why not putting this in the Q&A? Because it is irrelevant from a bridging loan underwriting perspective. We are lending on todays value.
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Post by ilmoro on Nov 28, 2015 18:34:23 GMT
So why not putting this in the Q&A? Because it is irrelevant from a bridging loan underwriting perspective. We are lending on todays value. But will that value hold up in 12 months time if the property market has been impacted by higher interest rates for instance (Believed to be imminent in the US and Britain likely to follow suit.) Therefore the potential for the significant refurbishment to be undertaken is relevant to lenders when assessing whether the stated exit plan is viable? There are a number of lenders on the forums involved with bridging loans where the intended refurbishment was not carried out as planned due to lack of funds, the loan defaulted and the valuation proved to be optimistic and recovery is ongoing and is unlikely to result in a full recovery of all sums owed.
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Post by ablender on Nov 28, 2015 18:37:03 GMT
So as I understand it is actually relevant.
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Post by SteveT on Nov 28, 2015 18:54:46 GMT
I guess the point is that there is no obligation on the borrower to undertake the renovations. Hence the only "firm" security is the valuation in its current state. However the knowledge that there are funds available to support the "intended" renovation goes some way to providing confidence in the exit plan.
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Post by chielamangus on Nov 28, 2015 19:24:55 GMT
DELETED - might prove too controversial for this forum
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