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Post by guff on Jan 9, 2017 8:42:06 GMT
One major problem would appear to be having a spare million to put the driveway in.
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Post by supernumerary on Jan 9, 2017 11:06:57 GMT
RE: "Are we allowed to post the link?" Are you asking on behalf of Ratesetter, when you refer to 'we' in your post? I left RateSetter in October 2016, hence why my icon doesn't have "representative of". I posted it in my own name, views my own. I don’t frequent the Ratesetter section of this p2p lending platform very much, so I missed reading your post; RateSetter is I think fine, quite simply the love affair I had with this small sharing economy P2P platform has fizzled. As we've matured, the company is taking different path to what would be my choice. Rather than feel frustrated and not a wholesome believer in the next stage of their journey, it has been mutually agreed that we part. It's a little sad, but hey ho, that's life. I don’t believe we have never met, although you were increasingly annoyed with some of my posts, sometime back… It sometimes nice to read that people will leave a Company because of their beliefs and that they are principled to do so, whatever the differences may be… Good luck with the next phase of your own personal journey. Welcome to the ‘Saving Stream investors chat forum’ as you are a Saving Stream investor no doubt… With regards to these three loans in question, the latest Saving Stream update (23rd Dec 2016) on them ALL was; “The Borrower is finding refinancing rather challenging so has no choice but to market the property for sale. Marketing will commence in early 2017 with supervision from our receivers to focus the Borrower's mind.”
IMHO, just let Saving Stream sort it out. Personally, I have no investment in these loans, so they are of no concern to me.
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Post by elliotn on Jan 9, 2017 12:37:50 GMT
These loans would be of concern to you if cumulatively defaults at some point threaten the platform and jeapordise the smooth run down of other loans without SS there focusing borrowers' minds.
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Post by supernumerary on Jan 9, 2017 13:16:18 GMT
These loans would be of concern to you if cumulatively defaults at some point threaten the platform and jeapordise the smooth run down of other loans without SS there focusing minds. Surely your comment should have been? These loans would be of concern to ME if cumulatively defaults at some point threaten the platform and jeapordise the smooth run down of other loans without SS there(sic) focusing minds.
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Post by harryvederci on Feb 4, 2017 13:53:39 GMT
latest update The borrower has made us an offer to settle the outstanding debt and we are now working towards this objective.
can anyone explain how the borrowers can make any offer when they are both bankrupt, one being subject to discharge suspended indefinitely
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Post by cooling_dude on Feb 4, 2017 14:00:46 GMT
latest update The borrower has made us an offer to settle the outstanding debt and we are now working towards this objective.can anyone explain how the borrowers can make any offer when they are both bankrupt, one being subject to discharge suspended indefinitely There were two companies involved in these loans, both at one time or another had the bankrupt individual as director but has resigned from both. The bankruptcy doesn't affect the companies, so there maybe some 'restructuring' going on. When they say the "the borrower has made us an offer" as with the others that would suggest that it is unlikely there will be 100% recovery.
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Post by mason on Feb 4, 2017 14:25:56 GMT
When they say the "the borrower has made us an offer" as with the others that would suggest that it is unlikely there will be 100% recovery. It will be interesting to see how far this process will go without the loan being put in default. It seems like several others are subject to the same negotiations over return of capital.
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Post by toffeeboy on Feb 7, 2017 15:48:48 GMT
When they say the "the borrower has made us an offer" as with the others that would suggest that it is unlikely there will be 100% recovery. It will be interesting to see how far this process will go without the loan being put in default. It seems like several others are subject to the same negotiations over return of capital. A question that has been bounding around for a while now mason.
savingstream and Paul64 can we please get clarification of just what constitutes a defaulted loan, the update for these loan suggest that they won't be 100% recoverable so in my view that would make this a defaulted loan as it is likely the PF will be required to cover any losses if it can/does cover them. This is regardless of whether the interest is being paid on a monthly basis or not, you are leaving the site open to a backlash if the suggestion is you knew that the repayment would fall short of the original loan and you didn't default the loan as soon as you was aware of this fact.
I will point out that I have no interest in this loan anymore as this became the first loan I decided to cash out of rather than going the distance thanks to the updates that came through on this forum. Thank you all as always
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Post by savingstream on Feb 7, 2017 16:42:55 GMT
That current assumption is incorrect. We have been offered a settlement amount over and above the outstanding capital owed to investors, but lower than the full outstanding amount including default interest. We are working with the borrower to repay in an orderly and timely fashion. We cannot give much more detail than that at the moment.
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Post by ianj on Feb 7, 2017 16:55:58 GMT
That current assumption is incorrect. We have been offered a settlement amount over and above the outstanding capital owed to investors, but lower than the full outstanding amount including default interest. We are working with the borrower to repay in an orderly and timely fashion. We cannot give much more detail than that at the moment. Good news indeed for lenders, but why, why, oh why couldn't the above have been conveyed on the loan update pages and in recent communications? Does nobody realise the potential for reputational damage you open of yourselves up to by leaving the lender community in the dark? Why invite speculation and the 'monsters' that materialise from ignorance of the facts?
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Feb 7, 2017 17:11:56 GMT
That current assumption is incorrect. We have been offered a settlement amount over and above the outstanding capital owed to investors, but lower than the full outstanding amount including default interest. We are working with the borrower to repay in an orderly and timely fashion. We cannot give much more detail than that at the moment. Default interest? Something you want to tell us savingstream?
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Post by toffeeboy on Feb 7, 2017 17:18:24 GMT
That current assumption is incorrect. We have been offered a settlement amount over and above the outstanding capital owed to investors, but lower than the full outstanding amount including default interest. We are working with the borrower to repay in an orderly and timely fashion. We cannot give much more detail than that at the moment. Default interest? Something you want to tell us savingstream ? Beat me to it, are you saying that you have been funding the interest on this savingstream because as far as I remember I received all the interest due on the loan. This now raises two more questions:
1) If the repayment is short of the capital and outstanding interest are SS taking the hit on the unpaid interest seeing as it has already been paid to the lenders.
2) How many loans have default interest? In other words how many loans are SS propping up to avoid having to default them.
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Post by elliotn on Feb 7, 2017 17:21:40 GMT
Yes, what is the seniority of SS's default interest...
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Post by mason on Feb 7, 2017 18:26:15 GMT
...and this is why I am no longer lending here.
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Post by Jeepers on Feb 7, 2017 18:53:41 GMT
I'm sure SS have previously said that a loan goes in to default (has the big red box) as soon as the borrower fails to service the interest.
Obviously the borrower hasn't been even servicing the interest so why hasn't this default been communicated to investors?
Why have unknowing investors been mislead into buying what they were lead to believe is a decent loan on the SM?
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